At Issue #2514 “Prescription Drug Abuse”

JOINING US ON “AT ISSUE.”.
I AM H. WAYNE WILSON. I AM H. WAYNE WILSON.
WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT
A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TALKED A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TALKED
ABOUT BEFORE HERE ON AT ISSUE, ABOUT BEFORE HERE ON AT ISSUE,
AND THAT’S IS OF DRUG ABUSE. AND THAT’S IS OF DRUG ABUSE.
NATIONALLY SPEAKING, THE NUMBER NATIONALLY SPEAKING, THE NUMBER
OF DEATHS FROM DRUG OVERDOSE, OF DEATHS FROM DRUG OVERDOSE,
PRESCRIPTION DRUG OVERDOSES IS PRESCRIPTION DRUG OVERDOSES IS
THREE QUARTERS OF ALL DRUG THREE QUARTERS OF ALL DRUG
OVERDOSES, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVERDOSES, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS
ACCOUNT FOR THREE QUARTERS OF ACCOUNT FOR THREE QUARTERS OF
ALL OVERDOSE DEATHS. ALL OVERDOSE DEATHS.
THAT NUMBER HAS TRIPLED SINCE THAT NUMBER HAS TRIPLED SINCE
1999. 1999.
SINCE 2008, DEATHS FROM SINCE 2008, DEATHS FROM
OVERDOSES OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVERDOSES OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS
HAS OUT-PACED DEATHS FROM CAR HAS OUT-PACED DEATHS FROM CAR
ACCIDENTS IN OUR COUNTRY. ACCIDENTS IN OUR COUNTRY.
IN FACT, THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE IN FACT, THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE
CONTROL AND PREVENTION HAS CONTROL AND PREVENTION HAS
CLASSIFIED DRUG OVERDOSE DEATH CLASSIFIED DRUG OVERDOSE DEATH
AS AN EPIDEMIC. AS AN EPIDEMIC.
WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT
ON A LOCAL LEVEL WITH THREE ON A LOCAL LEVEL WITH THREE
PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH IT ON A PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH IT ON A
DAILY BASIS. DAILY BASIS.
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE TO DEAL UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE TO DEAL
WITH IT ON A DAILY BASIS. WITH IT ON A DAILY BASIS.
THAT’S RENE SANDOVAL. THAT’S RENE SANDOVAL.
RENE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE RENE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE
MULTI-COUNTY NARCOTICS MULTI-COUNTY NARCOTICS
ENFORCEMENT GROUP. ENFORCEMENT GROUP.
WE WILL REFER TO IT AS “MEG” FOR WE WILL REFER TO IT AS “MEG” FOR
SHORT. SHORT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AGAIN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ALSO WITH US, IS SHERIFF BOB ALSO WITH US, IS SHERIFF BOB
HUSTON. HUSTON.
BOB IS THE SHERIFF OF TAZEWELL BOB IS THE SHERIFF OF TAZEWELL
COUNTY AND AGAIN ON THE PROGRAM COUNTY AND AGAIN ON THE PROGRAM
TO DISCUSS THE PROBLEM THAT TO DISCUSS THE PROBLEM THAT
DOESN’T SEEM TO BE GOING AWAY, DOESN’T SEEM TO BE GOING AWAY,
BUT SEEMS TO BE CHANGING IN SOME BUT SEEMS TO BE CHANGING IN SOME
WAY. WAY.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US,
SHERIFF. SHERIFF.
>>YOU ARE WELCOME. >>YOU ARE WELCOME.
ALSO HERE, THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR ALSO HERE, THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR
THE TAZEWELL COUNTY HEALTH THE TAZEWELL COUNTY HEALTH
DEPARTMENT, AMY TIPPEY. DEPARTMENT, AMY TIPPEY.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, AMY. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, AMY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
>>LET’S START WITH TAZEWELL >>LET’S START WITH TAZEWELL
COUNTY. COUNTY.
I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS SHOW, I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS SHOW,
WHILE WE HAVE THE TAZEWELL WHILE WE HAVE THE TAZEWELL
SHERIFF AND WE HAVE THE TAZEWELL SHERIFF AND WE HAVE THE TAZEWELL
HEALTH DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATOR, HEALTH DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATOR,
THIS IS NOT A TOPIC ABOUT THIS IS NOT A TOPIC ABOUT
TAZEWELL COUNTY. TAZEWELL COUNTY.
THIS AFFECTS EVERY COUNTY IN THIS AFFECTS EVERY COUNTY IN
CENTRAL ILLINOIS, EVERY COUNTY CENTRAL ILLINOIS, EVERY COUNTY
IN AMERICA. IN AMERICA.
SO WITH THAT, TAZEWELL COUNTY SO WITH THAT, TAZEWELL COUNTY
HAS HAD ITS FAIR SHARE OF DRUG HAS HAD ITS FAIR SHARE OF DRUG
OVERDOSE DEATHS IN 2012. OVERDOSE DEATHS IN 2012.
BUT PRIOR TO THAT, THE DEATHS BUT PRIOR TO THAT, THE DEATHS
WEREN’T SO HIGH. WEREN’T SO HIGH.
WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT HAPPENED?
>> WELL, WE HAD A PHENOMENON IN >> WELL, WE HAD A PHENOMENON IN
AROUND 2008-2009 IN WHICH WE SAW AROUND 2008-2009 IN WHICH WE SAW
A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN THE A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN THE
NUMBER OF ACCIDENT AL DRUG NUMBER OF ACCIDENT AL DRUG
OVERDOSE DEATHS. OVERDOSE DEATHS.
WE CREATED A PROGRAM CALLED WE CREATED A PROGRAM CALLED
“GENERATION RX” ALONG WITH “GENERATION RX” ALONG WITH
HEALTH EDUCATION CENTER, AND HEALTH EDUCATION CENTER, AND
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE
HAD 14 PRESCRIPTION DRUG DEATHS HAD 14 PRESCRIPTION DRUG DEATHS
IN 2008. IN 2008.
IN 2009, THE NUMBER WAS DOWN TO IN 2009, THE NUMBER WAS DOWN TO
SIX, WENT DOWN TO THREE IN 2010, SIX, WENT DOWN TO THREE IN 2010,
UP TO FIVE IN 2011, AND THERE IS UP TO FIVE IN 2011, AND THERE IS
260% INCREASE IN 2012 UP TO 13. 260% INCREASE IN 2012 UP TO 13.
THAT DOES NOT COUNT THE DEATHS THAT DOES NOT COUNT THE DEATHS
DUE TO METH DONOR PHENTYL. DUE TO METH DONOR PHENTYL.
>>AND THOSE ARE PRESCRIPTION >>AND THOSE ARE PRESCRIPTION
DRUGS AS WELL? DRUGS AS WELL?
>> THOSE ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS >> THOSE ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS
AS WELL. AS WELL.
>>IS THERE ANY IDEA, RENE, WHY >>IS THERE ANY IDEA, RENE, WHY
THAT HAPPENED IN 2012 IN THAT HAPPENED IN 2012 IN
TAZEWELL COUNTY? TAZEWELL COUNTY?
WHAT ABOUT THE SURROUNDING WHAT ABOUT THE SURROUNDING
COUNTIES. COUNTIES.
>>WHAT WE SEE FROM ENFORCEMENT >>WHAT WE SEE FROM ENFORCEMENT
ISSUE, I WOULD ATTRIBUTE IT TO ISSUE, I WOULD ATTRIBUTE IT TO
PROBABLY BEING A TREND. PROBABLY BEING A TREND.
TWO TYPES OF TRENDS, A NEW TREND TWO TYPES OF TRENDS, A NEW TREND
WHEN YOU HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU HAVE, FOR INSTANCE,
RIGHT NOW SYNTHETIC DRUGS ARE RIGHT NOW SYNTHETIC DRUGS ARE
HUGE, AND THAT’S SOMETHING WE HUGE, AND THAT’S SOMETHING WE
HADN’T HEARD ABOUT YEARS AGO, HADN’T HEARD ABOUT YEARS AGO,
BUT WE ARE HEARING ABOUT IT NOW. BUT WE ARE HEARING ABOUT IT NOW.
FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, WE FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, WE
MAY KNOW KNOW SPIKES. MAY KNOW KNOW SPIKES.
CONSTANT THREATS, COCAINE, METH CONSTANT THREATS, COCAINE, METH
AMPHETAMINE, WE WILL SEE THAT AMPHETAMINE, WE WILL SEE THAT
FROM 15, 20 YEARS AGO. FROM 15, 20 YEARS AGO.
WITH CONSTANT THREAT, I WITH CONSTANT THREAT, I
ATTRIBUTE IT TO PROBABLY BEING A ATTRIBUTE IT TO PROBABLY BEING A
NEW TREND. NEW TREND.
A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE WERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE WERE
SEEING METH AMPHETAMINE BEING A SEEING METH AMPHETAMINE BEING A
HUGE ISSUE IN OUR COUNTY. HUGE ISSUE IN OUR COUNTY.
THAT’S DECREASED STATISTICAL THAT’S DECREASED STATISTICAL
CALLY. CALLY.
ONE OF THE TWO BIGGEST THREATS, ONE OF THE TWO BIGGEST THREATS,
ACTUALLY THREE BIGGEST THREATS ACTUALLY THREE BIGGEST THREATS
ARE SYNTHETIC DRUGS, AS WELL AS ARE SYNTHETIC DRUGS, AS WELL AS
PRESCRIPTION DRUG ABUSE AND PRESCRIPTION DRUG ABUSE AND
HEROIN. HEROIN.
>>SHERIFF, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE >>SHERIFF, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE
QUESTION WHO IS TAKING THE QUESTION WHO IS TAKING THE
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
I THINK THE PUBLIC MIGHT LOOK AT I THINK THE PUBLIC MIGHT LOOK AT
THIS AND SAY “O, THE TEENAGERS THIS AND SAY “O, THE TEENAGERS
ARE AT IT AGAIN. ARE AT IT AGAIN.
THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE AT IT THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE AT IT
AGAIN.” AGAIN.”
>>THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS NOT >>THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS NOT
CONFINED TO ANY ONE AGE GROUP. CONFINED TO ANY ONE AGE GROUP.
IT IS GENERALLY A SITUATION THAT IT IS GENERALLY A SITUATION THAT
APPLIES TO ALL AGE GROUPS, ALL APPLIES TO ALL AGE GROUPS, ALL
ECONOMIC STATUS FOLKS, AND ECONOMIC STATUS FOLKS, AND
PEOPLE OF A FULL RANGE OF PEOPLE OF A FULL RANGE OF
EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUNDS AND SO EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUNDS AND SO
FORTH. FORTH.
IT IS A PROBLEM ACROSS THE BOARD IT IS A PROBLEM ACROSS THE BOARD
FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS. FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.
>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
PROCESS THAT YOU ARE PUTTING PROCESS THAT YOU ARE PUTTING
TOGETHER TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS. TOGETHER TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS.
YOU MENTIONED GENERATION RX AT YOU MENTIONED GENERATION RX AT
THE HOPE CENTER. THE HOPE CENTER.
HOW MANY SCHOOLS ARE HOW MANY SCHOOLS ARE
PARTICIPATING IN THAT? PARTICIPATING IN THAT?
>> ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS IN >> ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS IN
TAZEWELL COUNTY ARE TAZEWELL COUNTY ARE
PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROGRAM. PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROGRAM.
WE — IN 2009, THE CORONOR WAS WE — IN 2009, THE CORONOR WAS
DENNIS CONN. DENNIS CONN.
HE SHARED INFORMATION WITH ME HE SHARED INFORMATION WITH ME
ONE DADE HE HAD FIVE ONE DADE HE HAD FIVE
PRESCRIPTION DRUG OVERDOSE PRESCRIPTION DRUG OVERDOSE
DEATHS IN A 14 DAY PERIOD. DEATHS IN A 14 DAY PERIOD.
WE HAD A NEWS CONFERENCE. WE HAD A NEWS CONFERENCE.
WE ATTEMPTED TO GET THE WORD OUT WE ATTEMPTED TO GET THE WORD OUT
AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD TO AS AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD TO AS
MANY PEOPLE AS WE COULD, THAT MANY PEOPLE AS WE COULD, THAT
RESULTED FROM A CALL IN THE RESULTED FROM A CALL IN THE
WHOLE HEALTH EDUCATION CENTER, WHOLE HEALTH EDUCATION CENTER,
AB THEY HAD A PROGRAM THEY AB THEY HAD A PROGRAM THEY
PROPOSED. PROPOSED.
THE COST WAS ONLY $6,200 TO THE COST WAS ONLY $6,200 TO
BRING IT TO ALL THE SCHOOLS IN BRING IT TO ALL THE SCHOOLS IN
TAZEWELL COUNTY, AND WE TAZEWELL COUNTY, AND WE
IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENTED THE IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENTED THE
PROGRAM USING DRUG SEIZURE FUNDS PROGRAM USING DRUG SEIZURE FUNDS
TO PAY FOR IT. TO PAY FOR IT.
WE ARE IN OUR THIRD YEAR. WE ARE IN OUR THIRD YEAR.
>>AND THE PROGRAM ADDRESSES >>AND THE PROGRAM ADDRESSES
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS SPECIFICALLY. PRESCRIPTION DRUGS SPECIFICALLY.
>>ABSOLUTELY IT DOES, YES. >>ABSOLUTELY IT DOES, YES.
>>THERE WAS ALSO, MAYBE IT >>THERE WAS ALSO, MAYBE IT
DOESN’T HAVE A NAME YET, BUT DOESN’T HAVE A NAME YET, BUT
THERE IS A GROUP IN THE EARLY THERE IS A GROUP IN THE EARLY
STAGES OF FORMATION IN TAZEWELL STAGES OF FORMATION IN TAZEWELL
COUNTY, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE COUNTY, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT THAT? BIT ABOUT THAT?
>> SURE. >> SURE.
WHEN WE SAW THE NUMBER OF WHEN WE SAW THE NUMBER OF
OVERDOSE DEATHS CLIMBING, AS THE OVERDOSE DEATHS CLIMBING, AS THE
YEAR HAS GONE ON, SEVERAL FOLKS, YEAR HAS GONE ON, SEVERAL FOLKS,
THE CORONOR’S OFFICE, SHERIFF’S THE CORONOR’S OFFICE, SHERIFF’S
DEPARTMENT, RENE, AND MEG, DEPARTMENT, RENE, AND MEG,
SEVERAL OTHER LOCAL LAW SEVERAL OTHER LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT, THE HEALTH ENFORCEMENT, THE HEALTH
DEPARTMENT, ALL DECIDED WE DEPARTMENT, ALL DECIDED WE
NEEDED TO COME TOGETHER AND TALK NEEDED TO COME TOGETHER AND TALK
AND MEET ABOUT THIS. AND MEET ABOUT THIS.
WE HAD OUR SECOND MEETING AND WE WE HAD OUR SECOND MEETING AND WE
ARE LEARNING WHO ELSE WE NEED TO ARE LEARNING WHO ELSE WE NEED TO
BRING TO THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT BRING TO THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT WE CAN DO AS A TEAM TO, WHAT WE CAN DO AS A TEAM TO,
AGAIN, TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. AGAIN, TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
>>WHAT DO YOU — IS IT POSSIBLE >>WHAT DO YOU — IS IT POSSIBLE
TO EVEN ANSWER THE QUESTION OF TO EVEN ANSWER THE QUESTION OF
HOW DOES SOMEONE GET STARTED ON HOW DOES SOMEONE GET STARTED ON
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS WHEN THEY PRESCRIPTION DRUGS WHEN THEY
HAVEN’T BEEN PRESCRIBED THAT HAVEN’T BEEN PRESCRIBED THAT
DRUG TO BEGIN WITH? DRUG TO BEGIN WITH?
>> WELL, THAT’S SOMETHING WE >> WELL, THAT’S SOMETHING WE
NEED TO LOOK INTO, BUT I THINK NEED TO LOOK INTO, BUT I THINK
WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO
BECOMES ADDICTED, IT STARTS IN BECOMES ADDICTED, IT STARTS IN
THE BRAIN. THE BRAIN.
WHEN WHATEVER CHEMICAL THEY WHEN WHATEVER CHEMICAL THEY
INGEST MEETS THE RIGHT RECEPTORS INGEST MEETS THE RIGHT RECEPTORS
IN THE BRAIN, THEY REALIZE FOR IN THE BRAIN, THEY REALIZE FOR
WHATEVER REASON HOW THAT WORKS WHATEVER REASON HOW THAT WORKS
IN THEIR BODY, THEY HAVE HAD IN THEIR BODY, THEY HAVE HAD
RELIEF. RELIEF.
I THINK IT IS THE CYCLE OF I THINK IT IS THE CYCLE OF
ADDICTION, NO DIFFERENT WITH ADDICTION, NO DIFFERENT WITH
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OR HEROIN OR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OR HEROIN OR
SYNTHETIC DRUGS. SYNTHETIC DRUGS.
IT STARTS HOW YOUR BODY REACTS IT STARTS HOW YOUR BODY REACTS
TO THAT CHEMICAL. TO THAT CHEMICAL.
>>REGARDLESS OF HOW THE BODY >>REGARDLESS OF HOW THE BODY
REACTS, RENE, ACCESS IS THE REACTS, RENE, ACCESS IS THE
QUESTION HERE. QUESTION HERE.
>>THAT’S CORRECT. >>THAT’S CORRECT.
>>HOW EASY — I MEAN YOU ARE >>HOW EASY — I MEAN YOU ARE
MAKING ARRESTS ALL TOO OFTEN MAKING ARRESTS ALL TOO OFTEN
REGARDING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. REGARDING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
>>YES. >>YES.
>>WHAT DO YOU FIND IN TERMS OF >>WHAT DO YOU FIND IN TERMS OF
THE SOURCE OF THE DRUGS? THE SOURCE OF THE DRUGS?
>> FROM A COUPLE — YOU KNOW, >> FROM A COUPLE — YOU KNOW,
SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS WE HAVE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS WE HAVE
ARRESTED IN THE PAST DURING THE ARRESTED IN THE PAST DURING THE
INTERVIEWS, I KNOW THAT ONE INTERVIEWS, I KNOW THAT ONE
THING THAT HAPPENS, AND IT IS THING THAT HAPPENS, AND IT IS
SOMETHING FOR PARENTS TO BE SOMETHING FOR PARENTS TO BE
AWARE OF IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES AWARE OF IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES
KIDS, WHAT THEY WILL DO IS FOR KIDS, WHAT THEY WILL DO IS FOR
MOST CASES, PRESCRIPTIONS ARE MOST CASES, PRESCRIPTIONS ARE
READILY AVAILABLE IN PEOPLE’S READILY AVAILABLE IN PEOPLE’S
HOMES. HOMES.
QUITE OFTEN, AND I AM GUILTY OF QUITE OFTEN, AND I AM GUILTY OF
THIS, TOO, YOU MAY TAKE A THIS, TOO, YOU MAY TAKE A
PRESCRIPTION, AND GO INTO THE PRESCRIPTION, AND GO INTO THE
PHYSICIAN FOR AN AILMENT, AND PHYSICIAN FOR AN AILMENT, AND
MEET GET TWO WEEK PRESCRIPTION. MEET GET TWO WEEK PRESCRIPTION.
AFTER TWO DAYS, FEEL PRETTY AFTER TWO DAYS, FEEL PRETTY
GOOD. GOOD.
QUICK TAKING IT, AND STICK IT UP QUICK TAKING IT, AND STICK IT UP
IN THE MEDICINE CABINET, AND IT IN THE MEDICINE CABINET, AND IT
SITS. SITS.
FROM INTERVIEWS WE HAVE DONE IN FROM INTERVIEWS WE HAVE DONE IN
THE PAST, YOUNG ADULTS, THEY THE PAST, YOUNG ADULTS, THEY
WILL GO TO SOMEBODY’S HOUSE, WILL GO TO SOMEBODY’S HOUSE,
THEY WILL HAVE A PARTY, SLEEP THEY WILL HAVE A PARTY, SLEEP
OVER, IN MOST CASES, OVER, IN MOST CASES,
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS ARE KEPT IN A PRESCRIPTION DRUGS ARE KEPT IN A
COMMON BATHROOM WHERE THEY WILL COMMON BATHROOM WHERE THEY WILL
HAVE ACCESS TO. HAVE ACCESS TO.
KIDS WILL OPEN UP THE MEDICINE KIDS WILL OPEN UP THE MEDICINE
CABINETS WHICH DON’T HAVE A LOCK CABINETS WHICH DON’T HAVE A LOCK
AND KEY, OPEN THAT UP. AND KEY, OPEN THAT UP.
IF IT IS SOMEBODY THAT HAS A IF IT IS SOMEBODY THAT HAS A
EXPIRED PRESCRIPTION, WHAT YOU EXPIRED PRESCRIPTION, WHAT YOU
DO IS TAKE OUT A HANDFUL, NEVER DO IS TAKE OUT A HANDFUL, NEVER
GET INTO IT. GET INTO IT.
>>IT GOES FURTHER THAN THAT, >>IT GOES FURTHER THAN THAT,
DOESN’T IT? DOESN’T IT?
I MEAN PEOPLE ARE GOING IN, THEY I MEAN PEOPLE ARE GOING IN, THEY
ARE PRETENDING TO BE BUYING ARE PRETENDING TO BE BUYING
HOUSE, ANYWAY TO GET INTO HAVE HOUSE, ANYWAY TO GET INTO HAVE
ACCESS TO A MEDICINE CHEST? ACCESS TO A MEDICINE CHEST?
>> THAT’S CORRECT. >> THAT’S CORRECT.
PEOPLE CAN BE AS CREATIVE AS PEOPLE CAN BE AS CREATIVE AS
THEY WANT TO BE, AND THINKING THEY WANT TO BE, AND THINKING
OUTSIDE THE BOX. OUTSIDE THE BOX.
BUT ONE THING HAPPENING, TOO, BUT ONE THING HAPPENING, TOO,
RIGHT NOW, QUITE OFTEN PEOPLE RIGHT NOW, QUITE OFTEN PEOPLE
WILL ACTUALLY GO TO A HOME WILL ACTUALLY GO TO A HOME
THAT’S FOR SALE AND INSIDE THE THAT’S FOR SALE AND INSIDE THE
HOME, THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO HOME, THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO
INTENT WHATSOEVER TO MAKE A INTENT WHATSOEVER TO MAKE A
PROVEN. PROVEN.
THEY ARE GOING FOR ONE REASON THEY ARE GOING FOR ONE REASON
OPEN, GO TO THE RESTROOMS, GO TO OPEN, GO TO THE RESTROOMS, GO TO
THE HALL CLOSETS, CHECK THE THE HALL CLOSETS, CHECK THE
CABINETS TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY CABINETS TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY
TYPE OF PRESCRIPTIONS THERE. TYPE OF PRESCRIPTIONS THERE.
THEY CAN TAKE OUT A HANDFUL. THEY CAN TAKE OUT A HANDFUL.
NOBODY WILL KNOW. NOBODY WILL KNOW.
THE REALTOR WON’T KNOW. THE REALTOR WON’T KNOW.
ONE MESSAGE TO GET OUT, WE NEED ONE MESSAGE TO GET OUT, WE NEED
TO SECURE ANY PRESCRIPTION THAT TO SECURE ANY PRESCRIPTION THAT
YOU HAVE, NEED TO DISPOSE OF ANY YOU HAVE, NEED TO DISPOSE OF ANY
PRESCRIPTION THAT YOU HAVE THAT PRESCRIPTION THAT YOU HAVE THAT
ARE EXPIRED. ARE EXPIRED.
>>PROPER DISPOSAL, SHERIFF? >>PROPER DISPOSAL, SHERIFF?
>> THE MOST OF THE POLICE >> THE MOST OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENTS AROUND TODAY HAVE A DEPARTMENTS AROUND TODAY HAVE A
PROGRAM IN WHICH YOU CAN TURN PROGRAM IN WHICH YOU CAN TURN
UNUSED MEDICATIONS TO THE POLICE UNUSED MEDICATIONS TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, AND THEY WILL DEPARTMENT, AND THEY WILL
DISPOSE OF THEM FOR YOU. DISPOSE OF THEM FOR YOU.
>>AND, BY THE WAY, IT IS JUST >>AND, BY THE WAY, IT IS JUST
CONTAINER THAT IS LIKE A POST CONTAINER THAT IS LIKE A POST
OFFICE BOX, AND YOU DROP IT IN, OFFICE BOX, AND YOU DROP IT IN,
AND YOU CAN’T GET INTO IT. AND YOU CAN’T GET INTO IT.
>>IT IS SECURE, YES. >>IT IS SECURE, YES.
>>SO LET’S TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS >>SO LET’S TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS
TO THIS PROBLEM. TO THIS PROBLEM.
WE HAVE PRETTY CLEARLY WE HAVE PRETTY CLEARLY
IDENTIFIED THAT THERE IS AN IDENTIFIED THAT THERE IS AN
ISSUE. ISSUE.
YOU HAVE MENTIONED LOCKING UP OR YOU HAVE MENTIONED LOCKING UP OR
AT LEAST KEEPING PRESCRIPTION AT LEAST KEEPING PRESCRIPTION
DRUGS IN AN AREA THAT ISN’T A DRUGS IN AN AREA THAT ISN’T A
COMMON BATHROOM. COMMON BATHROOM.
YOU HAVE MENTIONED DISPOSAL. YOU HAVE MENTIONED DISPOSAL.
WHAT, ON THE LIST OF TO-DO’S, WHAT, ON THE LIST OF TO-DO’S,
WHAT SHOULD WE BE PAYING WHAT SHOULD WE BE PAYING
ATTENTION TO? ATTENTION TO?
WE AS CITIZENS, NOT AS YOU, THE WE AS CITIZENS, NOT AS YOU, THE
SHERIFF, OR DIRECTOR OF MEG, SHERIFF, OR DIRECTOR OF MEG,
WHAT SHOULD WE PAYING ATTENTION WHAT SHOULD WE PAYING ATTENTION
TO. TO.
>>THE PROGRAM AMY SPOKE ABOUT IS >>THE PROGRAM AMY SPOKE ABOUT IS
A VERY GOOD PROGRAM. A VERY GOOD PROGRAM.
WHAT SHE IS PROPOSING IS A WHAT SHE IS PROPOSING IS A
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH ACROSS COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH ACROSS
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT DISCIPLINE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT DISCIPLINE
OF PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATION, THE OF PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATION, THE
PHARMACEUTICAL COMMUNITY, PHARMACEUTICAL COMMUNITY,
PHYSICIANS, AND SO FORTH, THAT PHYSICIANS, AND SO FORTH, THAT
WE ALWAYS HAVE THE LAW WE ALWAYS HAVE THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT OPTION FROM MY ENFORCEMENT OPTION FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE, OKAY. PERSPECTIVE, OKAY.
WE LIKE TO THINK OF THAT AS A WE LIKE TO THINK OF THAT AS A
LAST RESORT. LAST RESORT.
BUT THE PROSECUTIONS ARE BUT THE PROSECUTIONS ARE
BECOMING MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE IN BECOMING MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE IN
TERMS OF DRUG INDUCED HOMICIDE TERMS OF DRUG INDUCED HOMICIDE
CHARGES. CHARGES.
WE ARE LOOKING AT MULTI-LEVEL WE ARE LOOKING AT MULTI-LEVEL
FEDERAL STATE, LOCAL TASK FORCES FEDERAL STATE, LOCAL TASK FORCES
THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS
PROBLEM. PROBLEM.
THE JUDGES ARE LOOKING AT MORE THE JUDGES ARE LOOKING AT MORE
SERIOUS SENTENCES, AND SO, SERIOUS SENTENCES, AND SO,
AGAIN, THIS IS ACROSS THE BOARD AGAIN, THIS IS ACROSS THE BOARD
ATTACK, AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO ATTACK, AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SOLVE THIS EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SOLVE THIS
PROBLEM. PROBLEM.
THE SHERIFF MENTIONED A THE SHERIFF MENTIONED A
PHARMACIST. PHARMACIST.
ARE PHARMACISTS ON YOUR — ARE PHARMACISTS ON YOUR —
>>WE DID IN THIS LAST MEETING >>WE DID IN THIS LAST MEETING
HAVE A PHARMACIST COME. HAVE A PHARMACIST COME.
I THINK HE WILL AGREE TO STAY I THINK HE WILL AGREE TO STAY
WITH THE GROUP AND HELP US FROM WITH THE GROUP AND HELP US FROM
THEIR PERSPECTIVE. THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
OUR NEXT MEETING WE ARE HOPING OUR NEXT MEETING WE ARE HOPING
TO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS TO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS
AND ACTUALLY A FAMILY MEMBER WHO AND ACTUALLY A FAMILY MEMBER WHO
HAD SOMEONE PASS AWAY FROM HAD SOMEONE PASS AWAY FROM
PRESCRIPTION OVERDOSE DEATH TO PRESCRIPTION OVERDOSE DEATH TO
TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY SAW FROM TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY SAW FROM
THEIR PERSPECTIVE AS A LOVED THEIR PERSPECTIVE AS A LOVED
ONE. ONE.
>>DO YOU THINK THAT PHARMACISTS >>DO YOU THINK THAT PHARMACISTS
ARE ON BOARD ACROSS THE BOARD? ARE ON BOARD ACROSS THE BOARD?
>> I THINK LIKE ANY OF US, THEY >> I THINK LIKE ANY OF US, THEY
ARE PART OF HELPING US FIND A ARE PART OF HELPING US FIND A
SOLUTION, BUT ALONE, THEY ARE SOLUTION, BUT ALONE, THEY ARE
NOT GOING TO BE THE ONLY NOT GOING TO BE THE ONLY
SOLUTION. SOLUTION.
WE NEED TO BE WORKING AS A WE NEED TO BE WORKING AS A
COMMUNITY FROM ALL LEVELS TO COMMUNITY FROM ALL LEVELS TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT THE MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT THE
ENFORCEMENT, WE LOOK AT THE ENFORCEMENT, WE LOOK AT THE
INTERVENTION, AND WE LOOK AT THE INTERVENTION, AND WE LOOK AT THE
PREVENTION OF HAVING THESE PREVENTION OF HAVING THESE
ISSUES THAT END IN DEATH. ISSUES THAT END IN DEATH.
>>IT MAYBE THAT PHARMACISTS, >>IT MAYBE THAT PHARMACISTS,
THAT THE PHARMACIST’ LOBBY. THAT THE PHARMACIST’ LOBBY.
BUT THE REASON I ASKED THE BUT THE REASON I ASKED THE
QUESTION, THERE WAS LEGISLATION QUESTION, THERE WAS LEGISLATION
IN CONGRESS THAT FAILED THAT IN CONGRESS THAT FAILED THAT
AMONGST OTHER THINGS REQUIRED AMONGST OTHER THINGS REQUIRED
THAT PHARMACISTS AND THAT PHARMACISTS AND
DISTRIBUTORS MUST STORE DRUGS IN DISTRIBUTORS MUST STORE DRUGS IN
SPECIAL VAULTS, AND THE SPECIAL VAULTS, AND THE
DRUGSTORE SAN PHARMACIST LOBBY DRUGSTORE SAN PHARMACIST LOBBY
HELPED TO DEFEAT THAT BILL. HELPED TO DEFEAT THAT BILL.
IS THE PROBLEM GETTING SO SEVERE IS THE PROBLEM GETTING SO SEVERE
THAT MAYBE THEY ARE STARTING TO THAT MAYBE THEY ARE STARTING TO
SAY, YES, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT SAY, YES, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT
CHANGE? CHANGE?
>> YOU KNOW THE CHANGE >> YOU KNOW THE CHANGE
DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE MADE. DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE MADE.
IF WE CAN’T DO IT ON A NATIONAL IF WE CAN’T DO IT ON A NATIONAL
LEVEL, AND CAN’T TOO IT ON A LEVEL, AND CAN’T TOO IT ON A
STATE LEVEL, I THINK, LIKE THE STATE LEVEL, I THINK, LIKE THE
GROUP THAT AMY IS WORKING ON GROUP THAT AMY IS WORKING ON
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TAKING A RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TAKING A
PROACTIVE STANCE TO DO IT ON A PROACTIVE STANCE TO DO IT ON A
LOCAL LEVEL. LOCAL LEVEL.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EDUCATION, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EDUCATION,
HOPEFULLY WE ARE EDUCATING OUR HOPEFULLY WE ARE EDUCATING OUR
YOUNG ADULTS. YOUNG ADULTS.
THAT’S THE REASON WHY NOT TO BE THAT’S THE REASON WHY NOT TO BE
TAKING THESE ILLEGALLY, BUT TAKING THESE ILLEGALLY, BUT
QUITE OFTEN SOMETIMES IT IS QUITE OFTEN SOMETIMES IT IS
TWO-FOLD BECAUSE SOMETIMES TWO-FOLD BECAUSE SOMETIMES
PEOPLE GET HOOKED ON PEOPLE GET HOOKED ON
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS LEGITIMATELY. PRESCRIPTION DRUGS LEGITIMATELY.
YOU MAY GO IN FOR AN INJURY, YOU MAY GO IN FOR AN INJURY,
HAVE A PAIN, AN AILMENT, THEY HAVE A PAIN, AN AILMENT, THEY
PROVIDE OXYCONTIN, WHICH IS PROVIDE OXYCONTIN, WHICH IS
OPIATE. OPIATE.
PEOPLE THAT GET HOOKED ON THEM PEOPLE THAT GET HOOKED ON THEM
WILL TRANSITION INTO HEROIN WILL TRANSITION INTO HEROIN
WHICH POSES A SECONDARY THREAT. WHICH POSES A SECONDARY THREAT.
>> SO, IT IS ALMOST LIKE >> SO, IT IS ALMOST LIKE
INTRODUCTION TRI DRUG, IF YOU INTRODUCTION TRI DRUG, IF YOU
HAVE SURGERY ON REQUIRE OXY HAVE SURGERY ON REQUIRE OXY
CONNECTICUT REQUIRE OXYCONTIN, OPENS THE
DOOR FOR ILLEGAL DRUG USE? DOOR FOR ILLEGAL DRUG USE?
>> AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE >> AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE
PERSON WE ARRESTED NOT TOO LONG PERSON WE ARRESTED NOT TOO LONG
AGO, DURING HIS INTERVIEW, NEVER AGO, DURING HIS INTERVIEW, NEVER
DID HE THINK HE WOULD BE A DID HE THINK HE WOULD BE A
HEROIN USER, BUT WHAT HAPPENED HEROIN USER, BUT WHAT HAPPENED
TO HIM, HE ACTUALLY HAD AN TO HIM, HE ACTUALLY HAD AN
INJURY. INJURY.
HE WAS KICKED BY A HORSE, WENT HE WAS KICKED BY A HORSE, WENT
IN, WAS PRESCRIBED PAIN IN, WAS PRESCRIBED PAIN
MEDICATION, GOT HOOKED ON MEDICATION, GOT HOOKED ON
OXYCONTIN. OXYCONTIN.
HIS DEPENDENCE GREW GREATER AND HIS DEPENDENCE GREW GREATER AND
GREATER, AND IT WAS EASIER FOR GREATER, AND IT WAS EASIER FOR
HIM TO GET HEROIN INSTEAD OF HIM TO GET HEROIN INSTEAD OF
TRYING TO GET THE PRESCRIPTION TRYING TO GET THE PRESCRIPTION
DRUGS ILLEGALLY. DRUGS ILLEGALLY.
DURING THAT INTERVIEW, HE SAID DURING THAT INTERVIEW, HE SAID
HE NEVER INTENDED TO BE A HEROIN HE NEVER INTENDED TO BE A HEROIN
ABUSER, BUT IT ALL STARTED WITH ABUSER, BUT IT ALL STARTED WITH
AN INJURY THAT HE HAD GOTTEN. AN INJURY THAT HE HAD GOTTEN.
>>ON JANUARY 25, ADVISORY PANEL >>ON JANUARY 25, ADVISORY PANEL
TO THE FDA, FOOD AND DRUG TO THE FDA, FOOD AND DRUG
ADMINISTRATION, RECOMMENDED ON A ADMINISTRATION, RECOMMENDED ON A
VOTE OF 19-10 THAT THERE BE SOME VOTE OF 19-10 THAT THERE BE SOME
TOUGHER RESTRICTIONS ON NARCOTIC TOUGHER RESTRICTIONS ON NARCOTIC
PAIN KILLERS. PAIN KILLERS.
AMONGST THOSE RULES, REFILLS AMONGST THOSE RULES, REFILLS
FORBIDDEN WITHOUT A NEW FORBIDDEN WITHOUT A NEW
PRESCRIPTION, FAXED PRESCRIPTION, FAXED
PRESCRIPTIONS, AND PHONED IN PRESCRIPTIONS, AND PHONED IN
PRESCRIPTIONS WOULD NOT BE PRESCRIPTIONS WOULD NOT BE
ALLOWED, AND ONLY DOCTOR’S ALLOWED, AND ONLY DOCTOR’S
WRITTEN PRESCRIPTIONS WOULD BE WRITTEN PRESCRIPTIONS WOULD BE
ALLOWED. ALLOWED.
IN YOUR ESTIMATION, IS THIS PART IN YOUR ESTIMATION, IS THIS PART
OF THE SOLUTION? OF THE SOLUTION?
>> THAT IS PART OF THE SOLUTION, >> THAT IS PART OF THE SOLUTION,
AND, AGAIN, THIS NEEDS TO BE AND, AGAIN, THIS NEEDS TO BE
ACROSS THE BOARD EFFORT AND IT ACROSS THE BOARD EFFORT AND IT
NEEDS TO BE ATTACKED ON A NUMBER NEEDS TO BE ATTACKED ON A NUMBER
OF DIFFERENT FRONTS, BETTER OF DIFFERENT FRONTS, BETTER
CONTROL OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF CONTROL OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF
THE DRUGS IS CERTAINLY VERY THE DRUGS IS CERTAINLY VERY
IMPORTANT PART OF THAT EFFORT. IMPORTANT PART OF THAT EFFORT.
AGAIN, THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS AGAIN, THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS
FAIRLY EASY TO CONTROL, AND IT FAIRLY EASY TO CONTROL, AND IT
IS SOMETHING WE CAN’T IMAGINE IS SOMETHING WE CAN’T IMAGINE
THAT ANYONE WOULD OBJECT TO. THAT ANYONE WOULD OBJECT TO.
>>LET’S TALK ABOUT MONITORING >>LET’S TALK ABOUT MONITORING
THOSE KIND OF SITUATIONS. THOSE KIND OF SITUATIONS.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO DOCTOR SHOP. YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO DOCTOR SHOP.
THAT’S CLEAR. THAT’S CLEAR.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE HOL GO ACROSS YOU HAVE PEOPLE HOL GO ACROSS
STATE BORDERS IN ORDER TO FILL A STATE BORDERS IN ORDER TO FILL A
SIMILAR PRESCRIPTION. SIMILAR PRESCRIPTION.
HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT MONITORING HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT MONITORING
ALL THIS? ALL THIS?
>> THERE ARE OTHER STATES THAT >> THERE ARE OTHER STATES THAT
ALREADY HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE ALREADY HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE
RIGHT NOW THAT THEY WILL RIGHT NOW THAT THEY WILL
ACTUALLY TRACK PEOPLE THAT USE ACTUALLY TRACK PEOPLE THAT USE
PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION OR GO PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION OR GO
INTO GET SOMETHING FILLED. INTO GET SOMETHING FILLED.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, IT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, IT IS
ALMOST LIKE WE ENDED UP DOING ALMOST LIKE WE ENDED UP DOING
THAT WITH PSEUDREPHINE. THAT WITH PSEUDREPHINE.
A PROGRAM THAT WOULD PARALLEL A PROGRAM THAT WOULD PARALLEL
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WOULD BE
BENEFICIAL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT BENEFICIAL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT
TO TRACK, PLUS I THINK IT WOULD TO TRACK, PLUS I THINK IT WOULD
ALSO MAKE IT EASIER FOR A ALSO MAKE IT EASIER FOR A
PHARMACIST AND PHYSICIANS TO BE PHARMACIST AND PHYSICIANS TO BE
ABLE TO TRACK AS TO WHO IS ABLE TO TRACK AS TO WHO IS
COMING IN FOR MULTIPLE COMING IN FOR MULTIPLE
PRESCRIPTIONS. PRESCRIPTIONS.
>>DOES TAZEWELL COUNTY HEALTH >>DOES TAZEWELL COUNTY HEALTH
DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATE IN A DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATE IN A
MONITORING PROGRAM OF ANY KIND? MONITORING PROGRAM OF ANY KIND?
>> WE DO NOT. >> WE DO NOT.
THAT’S NOT BEEN A ROLE THAT’S THAT’S NOT BEEN A ROLE THAT’S
BEEN ANYTHING WE HAVE ASSIGNED BEEN ANYTHING WE HAVE ASSIGNED
TO US. TO US.
PART OF THE WORK IN PUBLIC PART OF THE WORK IN PUBLIC
HEALTH IS THAT WE DO ENFORCE HEALTH IS THAT WE DO ENFORCE
RULES, BUT NOT WITH PHARMACISTS RULES, BUT NOT WITH PHARMACISTS
OR PHYSICIANS’ OFFICES. OR PHYSICIANS’ OFFICES.
WE HOPEFULLY WILL FILL THE ROLE WE HOPEFULLY WILL FILL THE ROLE
OF BRINGING FOLKS TOGETHER TO OF BRINGING FOLKS TOGETHER TO
TALK TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS A TALK TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS A
TEAM FROM EACH OF OUR DIFFERENT TEAM FROM EACH OF OUR DIFFERENT
DISCIPLINES. DISCIPLINES.
THAT’S REALLY OUR GOAL IS THAT THAT’S REALLY OUR GOAL IS THAT
FROM EACH OF OUR SHOPS OR ALLEYS FROM EACH OF OUR SHOPS OR ALLEYS
ON THE ROADWAY THAT WE WORK ON THE ROADWAY THAT WE WORK
TOGETHER AND NOT SEE THINGS AS TOGETHER AND NOT SEE THINGS AS
SEPARATE. SEPARATE.
WE HAD A VERY INTERESTING TALK WE HAD A VERY INTERESTING TALK
WITH A LADY WHO CAME TO OUR WITH A LADY WHO CAME TO OUR
MERGING TREND GROUP, AND SHE WAS MERGING TREND GROUP, AND SHE WAS
FROM A PHYSICIAN’S OFFICE ABOUT FROM A PHYSICIAN’S OFFICE ABOUT
HOW THEY MANAGE PAIN MEDICATIONS HOW THEY MANAGE PAIN MEDICATIONS
AND HOW THEY WORK WITH SOMEONE AND HOW THEY WORK WITH SOMEONE
WHO STARTS WITH AN INJURY TO WHO STARTS WITH AN INJURY TO
MAKE SURE THAT WHILE THEY ARE ON MAKE SURE THAT WHILE THEY ARE ON
THESE STRONG DRUGS, THAT THEY THESE STRONG DRUGS, THAT THEY
WORK WITH THEM TO NOT ONLY WORK WITH THEM TO NOT ONLY
MANAGE THEIR PAIN WHILE THEY ARE MANAGE THEIR PAIN WHILE THEY ARE
INJURED, BUT ALSO WORK WITH THEM INJURED, BUT ALSO WORK WITH THEM
TO STEP DOWN UNTIL THEY ARE OFF TO STEP DOWN UNTIL THEY ARE OFF
THE PRESCRIPTION. THE PRESCRIPTION.
SO, AGAIN, I THINK IT IS ALL SO, AGAIN, I THINK IT IS ALL
LEVELS, PHARMACISTS, LAW LEVELS, PHARMACISTS, LAW
ENFORCEMENT, PREVENTION MESSAGES ENFORCEMENT, PREVENTION MESSAGES
ACROSS THE BOARD. ACROSS THE BOARD.
>>YOU MENTIONED PAIN MANAGEMENT. >>YOU MENTIONED PAIN MANAGEMENT.
OSF, ST. FRANCIS HAS PAIN OSF, ST. FRANCIS HAS PAIN
MANAGEMENT CLINIC ON ROUTE 91, MANAGEMENT CLINIC ON ROUTE 91,
NORTHWEST CORNER OF PEORIA. NORTHWEST CORNER OF PEORIA.
DO YOU WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH DO YOU WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH
THEM IN TERMS OF IN ANY REGARD? THEM IN TERMS OF IN ANY REGARD?
>> NO. >> NO.
WE DON’T PROFESSIONALLY DAY TO WE DON’T PROFESSIONALLY DAY TO
DAY WORK, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN DAY WORK, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN
INVITED TO COME TO THE TABLE TO INVITED TO COME TO THE TABLE TO
TALK WITH US. TALK WITH US.
>>RENE MENTIONED COMMUNICATION, >>RENE MENTIONED COMMUNICATION,
THE MONITORING. THE MONITORING.
THAT PRESENTS SOME PROBLEMS IN THAT PRESENTS SOME PROBLEMS IN
TERMS OF ARE YOU ON THE SAME TERMS OF ARE YOU ON THE SAME
SYSTEMS? SYSTEMS?
>> NO. >> NO.
THAT’S A SHORT ANSWER, NO. THAT’S A SHORT ANSWER, NO.
IT IS NOT SHARING OF DATA IS IT IS NOT SHARING OF DATA IS
SOMETHING THAT’S BEEN SOUGHT SOMETHING THAT’S BEEN SOUGHT
AFTER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR AFTER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS AND HASN’T BEEN MANY, MANY YEARS AND HASN’T BEEN
ACCOMPLISHED YET. ACCOMPLISHED YET.
WE ARE BETTER THAN EVER. WE ARE BETTER THAN EVER.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY CAREER IS I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY CAREER IS
ALMOST 41 YEARS, AND I HAVE ALMOST 41 YEARS, AND I HAVE
NEVER SEEN BETTER COMMUNICATION NEVER SEEN BETTER COMMUNICATION
BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
AT ALL LEVELS, AND THE ABILITY AT ALL LEVELS, AND THE ABILITY
TO SHARE INFORMATION, A DESIRE TO SHARE INFORMATION, A DESIRE
TO SHARE INFORMATION, AND THE TO SHARE INFORMATION, AND THE
ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER FOR A ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER FOR A
COMMON PURPOSE HAS NEVER BEEN COMMON PURPOSE HAS NEVER BEEN
BETTER IN MY CAREER. BETTER IN MY CAREER.
, BUT AS FAR AS LAW ENFORCEMENT , BUT AS FAR AS LAW ENFORCEMENT
SYSTEMS NOT NECESSARILY TALK TO SYSTEMS NOT NECESSARILY TALK TO
EACH OTHER, HOWEVER, THE EACH OTHER, HOWEVER, THE
DIFFERENT POLICE AGENCIES DO GET DIFFERENT POLICE AGENCIES DO GET
TOGETHER AND SHARE INFORMATION TOGETHER AND SHARE INFORMATION
ON A REGULAR BASIS. ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE GOT ABOUT TWO OR AGAIN, WE HAVE GOT ABOUT TWO OR
THREE TASK FORCES GOING RIGHT THREE TASK FORCES GOING RIGHT
NOW IN WHICH WE, OF ALL NOW IN WHICH WE, OF ALL
DEDICATED PERSONNEL. DEDICATED PERSONNEL.
WE ACCOMPLISH COMMUNICATION TO WE ACCOMPLISH COMMUNICATION TO
SOLVE OUR LOCAL PROBLEMS BASED SOLVE OUR LOCAL PROBLEMS BASED
ON THAT METHOD. ON THAT METHOD.
>>I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE >>I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE
ORIGINAL PROBLEM OF DRUGS ORIGINAL PROBLEM OF DRUGS
BECAUSE IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND BECAUSE IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND
SAYS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SAYS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
ARRESTED FOR HEROIN ADDICTION, ARRESTED FOR HEROIN ADDICTION,
AND THE DOCTORS KNOW HOW TO AND THE DOCTORS KNOW HOW TO
TREAT HEROIN ADDICTION. BUT TREAT HEROIN ADDICTION. BUT
WITH SOME OF THE DRUGS YOU HAVE WITH SOME OF THE DRUGS YOU HAVE
DESCRIBED EARLIER, THE DRUGS DESCRIBED EARLIER, THE DRUGS
STACKING, I BELIEVE IT IS STACKING, I BELIEVE IT IS
CALLED, IT PRESENTS A WHOLE NEW CALLED, IT PRESENTS A WHOLE NEW
PROBLEM. PROBLEM.
IT DOES. IT DOES.
WHEN YOU STOP AND LOOK IN PEORIA WHEN YOU STOP AND LOOK IN PEORIA
COUNTY, 43 DRUG RELATED OVERDOSE COUNTY, 43 DRUG RELATED OVERDOSE
DEATHS, AND SPEAKING TO THE DEATHS, AND SPEAKING TO THE
CORONOR FROM PEORIA COUNTY, SHE CORONOR FROM PEORIA COUNTY, SHE
WAS TELLING ME ALL 43 WERE WAS TELLING ME ALL 43 WERE
COMBINATION OF DRUGS, NOT JUST COMBINATION OF DRUGS, NOT JUST
ONE. ONE THING WE FIND IS THAT ONE. ONE THING WE FIND IS THAT
WHEN SOMEBODY GOES TO THE PARTY, WHEN SOMEBODY GOES TO THE PARTY,
IT IS NOT GOING TO BE “HEY, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE “HEY,
LET’S JUST TAKE PRESCRIPTION LET’S JUST TAKE PRESCRIPTION
DRUGS ILLEGALLY. DRUGS ILLEGALLY.
LET’S GET OUR HIGH OFF OF THAT.” LET’S GET OUR HIGH OFF OF THAT.”
IN MOST CASES WHAT IS HAPPENING, IN MOST CASES WHAT IS HAPPENING,
PEOPLE WILL BE TAKING PEOPLE WILL BE TAKING
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS BEING MIGHT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS BEING MIGHT
BE DOING COCAINE, MIGHT BE BE DOING COCAINE, MIGHT BE
SMOKING MARIJUANA. SMOKING MARIJUANA.
IN EVERY SINGLE CASE, ALMOST IN EVERY SINGLE CASE, ALMOST
EVERY CASE, WHERE THERE IS A EVERY CASE, WHERE THERE IS A
PARTY, THERE WILL BE ALCOHOL. PARTY, THERE WILL BE ALCOHOL.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WHEN THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WHEN
YOU STACK — SOMETIMES ONE DRUG YOU STACK — SOMETIMES ONE DRUG
A LONE, WHETHER HEROIN, METH A LONE, WHETHER HEROIN, METH
AMPHETAMINE, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AMPHETAMINE, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS
BY ITSELF IS DANGEROUS. BY ITSELF IS DANGEROUS.
POTENTIAL FOR OVERDOSE IS THERE. POTENTIAL FOR OVERDOSE IS THERE.
WHEN YOU STACK THEM AND COMBINE WHEN YOU STACK THEM AND COMBINE
IT, IT MAKES A LETHAL IT, IT MAKES A LETHAL
COMBINATION. COMBINATION.
THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT POSES, THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT POSES,
WHEN SOMEBODY OD’S, IF THEY GO WHEN SOMEBODY OD’S, IF THEY GO
TO THE HOSPITAL, AND OVERDOSE ON TO THE HOSPITAL, AND OVERDOSE ON
ONE DRUG IT SEVEN THE ER DOCTORS ONE DRUG IT SEVEN THE ER DOCTORS
MAYBE ABLE TO TREAT THEM FOR MAYBE ABLE TO TREAT THEM FOR
THAT. THAT.
WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE DRUGS IN WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE DRUGS IN
YOUR SYSTEM IN ADDITION TO YOUR SYSTEM IN ADDITION TO
ALCOHOL, IT POSES A VERY ALCOHOL, IT POSES A VERY
DIFFICULT PROBLEM FOR EMS AND DIFFICULT PROBLEM FOR EMS AND
FOR THE PHYSICIANS WHO ARE FOR THE PHYSICIANS WHO ARE
TRYING TO TREAT YOU. TRYING TO TREAT YOU.
>>SO IT LENDS A WHOLE NEW >>SO IT LENDS A WHOLE NEW
DEFINITION TO THE WORD DEFINITION TO THE WORD
“COCKTAIL.” “COCKTAIL.”
>>WE TALK ABOUT SKITTLE PARTIES. >>WE TALK ABOUT SKITTLE PARTIES.
>>YES. >>YES.
>>BECAUSE OF THE COLORS? >>BECAUSE OF THE COLORS?
>> SOME OF THE THEMES YOUNGER >> SOME OF THE THEMES YOUNGER
GENERATIONS WILL DO, CALLED THE GENERATIONS WILL DO, CALLED THE
SKITTLE PARTY. SKITTLE PARTY.
WHEN THEY GO KIDS SHOW UP TO THE WHEN THEY GO KIDS SHOW UP TO THE
PARTY, THEY WILL BRING THE PARTY, THEY WILL BRING THE
DIFFERENT COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT COMBINATION OF
DIFFERENT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, DIFFERENT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS,
THROW THEM ALL IN A COMMON BJORK THROW THEM ALL IN A COMMON BJORK
AND PEOPLE CAN HELP THEMSELVES. AND PEOPLE CAN HELP THEMSELVES.
I MEAN THE REASON THEY CALL IT I MEAN THE REASON THEY CALL IT
SKITTLES BECAUSE PRESCRIPTION SKITTLES BECAUSE PRESCRIPTION
DRUGS COME IN ALL DIFFERENT DRUGS COME IN ALL DIFFERENT
SIZES, SHAMES AND COLORS. SIZES, SHAMES AND COLORS.
>>ANOTHER TERM IS PHARM, BECAUSE >>ANOTHER TERM IS PHARM, BECAUSE
OF PHARMACEUTICAL. OF PHARMACEUTICAL.
>>UH-HUH. >>UH-HUH.
THE MEG UNIT, YOUR OFFICERS ARE THE MEG UNIT, YOUR OFFICERS ARE
TRAINED TO DEAL WITH DRUG TRAINED TO DEAL WITH DRUG
VIOLATIONS. VIOLATIONS.
>>THAT’S CORRECT. >>THAT’S CORRECT.
>>YOUR OFFICERS, YOUR DEPUTIES >>YOUR OFFICERS, YOUR DEPUTIES
ARE TRAINED IN A MULTITUDE OF ARE TRAINED IN A MULTITUDE OF
ARENAS IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH A ARENAS IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH A
LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS FROM LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS FROM
TRAFFIC STOPS TO EVERYTHING. TRAFFIC STOPS TO EVERYTHING.
HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO KEEP YOUR HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO KEEP YOUR
OFFICERS UP-TO-DATE ON OFFICERS UP-TO-DATE ON
RECOGNIZING DRUG ABUSE? RECOGNIZING DRUG ABUSE?
>> IT IS NOT VERY DIFFICULT >> IT IS NOT VERY DIFFICULT
REALLY. REALLY.
WE HAVE A GOOD TRAINING CENTER WE HAVE A GOOD TRAINING CENTER
LOCALLY. LOCALLY.
WE HAVE OFFICERS DEDICATED TO WE HAVE OFFICERS DEDICATED TO
THE MEG UNIT WHO SHARE THE MEG UNIT WHO SHARE
INFORMATION WITH US. INFORMATION WITH US.
A AGAIN, IT IS A MATTER OF A AGAIN, IT IS A MATTER OF
COOPERATION. COOPERATION.
THE MEG UNIT FREQUENTLY REACHES THE MEG UNIT FREQUENTLY REACHES
OUT AND LOOKS FOR ASSISTANCE IN OUT AND LOOKS FOR ASSISTANCE IN
LOCATING PEOPLE AND MONITORING LOCATING PEOPLE AND MONITORING
SUSPECTS, AND IN LOOKING FOR SUSPECTS, AND IN LOOKING FOR
SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY. THEY KEEP SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY. THEY KEEP
US WELL-INFORMED WHAT TO LOOK US WELL-INFORMED WHAT TO LOOK
FOR. FOR.
AGAIN, WE HAVE TRAINING AGAIN, WE HAVE TRAINING
AVAILABLE THROUGH THE LOCAL AVAILABLE THROUGH THE LOCAL
TRAINING CENTER. TRAINING CENTER.
THAT’S WHERE ALL MEMBERS OF THAT THAT’S WHERE ALL MEMBERS OF THAT
ORGANIZATION AND IT IS FAIRLY ORGANIZATION AND IT IS FAIRLY
EASY TO KEEP PEOPLE TRAINED. EASY TO KEEP PEOPLE TRAINED.
>>WE ALSO ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS >>WE ALSO ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS
IS TO TRAIN — IT SOUNDS ODD, IS TO TRAIN — IT SOUNDS ODD,
BUT TRAIN PHYSICIANS IN BUT TRAIN PHYSICIANS IN
RECOGNIZING DRUG ABUSE. RECOGNIZING DRUG ABUSE.
>>YES, A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT >>YES, A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
SUBJECT, BUT SAME KIND OF SUBJECT, BUT SAME KIND OF
PROCESS OCCURRED. WE FOUND WE PROCESS OCCURRED. WE FOUND WE
HAD A LOT OF INFANT MORTALITY, HAD A LOT OF INFANT MORTALITY,
INFANT DEATHS IN TAZEWELL INFANT DEATHS IN TAZEWELL
COUNTY. COUNTY.
WHEN WE BROUGHT A GROUP WHEN WE BROUGHT A GROUP
TOGETHER, WE DECIDED WE NEEDED TOGETHER, WE DECIDED WE NEEDED
TO MAKE SURE ALL MEDICAL TO MAKE SURE ALL MEDICAL
PROVIDERS ARE ON THE SAME LEVEL PROVIDERS ARE ON THE SAME LEVEL
OF INFORMATION. I THINK THAT’S OF INFORMATION. I THINK THAT’S
VERY SIMILAR IN THIS PROCESS AS VERY SIMILAR IN THIS PROCESS AS
WELL. WELL.
WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT LAW WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS ON A LEVEL ENFORCEMENT IS ON A LEVEL
PLAYING FIELD FROM THE SMALLEST PLAYING FIELD FROM THE SMALLEST
TO THE LARGEST DEPARTMENT WITH TO THE LARGEST DEPARTMENT WITH
THE BEST AND MOST CURRENT THE BEST AND MOST CURRENT
INFORMATION. INFORMATION.
SO TRAINING WILL BE ONE OF THE SO TRAINING WILL BE ONE OF THE
PRIMARY AVENUES ACROSS ALL PRIMARY AVENUES ACROSS ALL
PROFESSIONS THAT WE WILL LOOK TO PROFESSIONS THAT WE WILL LOOK TO
BE PROVIDING THE NEXT YEAR. BE PROVIDING THE NEXT YEAR.
>>AND TRAINING OF THE CITIZENRY, >>AND TRAINING OF THE CITIZENRY,
PRESCRIPTION OR GENERATION RX IS PRESCRIPTION OR GENERATION RX IS
PART OF THAT. PART OF THAT.
I SUPPOSE THIS PROGRAM MIGHT BE I SUPPOSE THIS PROGRAM MIGHT BE
PART OF THAT. PART OF THAT.
BUT ARE THERE OTHER AVENUES BUT ARE THERE OTHER AVENUES
WHERE YOU ARE REACHING OUT TO WHERE YOU ARE REACHING OUT TO
THE PUBLIC SAYING “WE HAVE GOT THE PUBLIC SAYING “WE HAVE GOT
AN ISSUE, AND WE NEED YOUR HELP AN ISSUE, AND WE NEED YOUR HELP
IN SOLVING IT?” IN SOLVING IT?”
>>WE HAVE TALKED TO SEVERAL >>WE HAVE TALKED TO SEVERAL
GROUPS, AGAIN, THE CORONOR GROUPS, AGAIN, THE CORONOR
CONOVER AND I HAVE DONE THIS CONOVER AND I HAVE DONE THIS
MANY TIMES IN THE PAST. MANY TIMES IN THE PAST.
WE HAVE TALKED TO ANYONE THAT WE HAVE TALKED TO ANYONE THAT
WILL LISTEN TO US. WILL LISTEN TO US.
THE CORONOR, BALDY, WE SHARED THE CORONOR, BALDY, WE SHARED
INFORMATION AND PLAN TO DO THIS INFORMATION AND PLAN TO DO THIS
AS WELL. AS WELL.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS
WE CAN DO ASIDE FROM THE LAW WE CAN DO ASIDE FROM THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT ASPECT IS TO PROVIDE ENFORCEMENT ASPECT IS TO PROVIDE
GOOD INFORMATION AND EDUCATION GOOD INFORMATION AND EDUCATION
TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN, AND TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN, AND
WE NEED TO OVER COME THE NOTION WE NEED TO OVER COME THE NOTION
THAT ANYTHING THAT IS GIVEN TO THAT ANYTHING THAT IS GIVEN TO
YOU BY A DOCTOR IS GOOD FOR YOU YOU BY A DOCTOR IS GOOD FOR YOU
AND CAN’T HURT YOU. AND CAN’T HURT YOU.
THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT
THERE THAT DO NOT BELIEVE YOU THERE THAT DO NOT BELIEVE YOU
CAN BECOME ADDICTED TO CAN BECOME ADDICTED TO
PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS. PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS.
THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT
TAKING COMBINATIONS OF TAKING COMBINATIONS OF
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS IS NOT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS IS NOT
HARMFUL. HARMFUL.
SO GOOD, ACCURATE INFORMATION SO GOOD, ACCURATE INFORMATION
AND RAISING THE LEVEL OF AND RAISING THE LEVEL OF
AWARENESS IS VERY IMPORTANT. AWARENESS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
ANOTHER ASPECT TO THAT IS ARMING ANOTHER ASPECT TO THAT IS ARMING
PEOPLE WITH INFORMATION IN TERMS PEOPLE WITH INFORMATION IN TERMS
OF WHAT TO LOOK FOR, WHEN THEY OF WHAT TO LOOK FOR, WHEN THEY
INTERACT WITH THEIR CHILDREN, INTERACT WITH THEIR CHILDREN,
THEIR FRIENDS AND THEIR THEIR FRIENDS AND THEIR
RELATIVES SO THEY CAN BE ALERTED RELATIVES SO THEY CAN BE ALERTED
SOMEONE IN THEIR FAMILY OR SOMEONE IN THEIR FAMILY OR
FRIEND MIGHT BE HAVING SOME FRIEND MIGHT BE HAVING SOME
DIFFICULTY. DIFFICULTY.
>>SO IN SUMMATION, RENE, IT IS A >>SO IN SUMMATION, RENE, IT IS A
TREE PRONGED APPROACH. TREE PRONGED APPROACH.
>>YES. >>YES.
I AM A FIRM BELIEVER, IT IS I AM A FIRM BELIEVER, IT IS
EDUCATION, ENFORCEMENT AND EDUCATION, ENFORCEMENT AND
PREVENTION. PREVENTION.
>>LIKE THE SHERIFF SAID, >>LIKE THE SHERIFF SAID,
EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, EDUCATING EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, EDUCATING
THE YOUNG PEOPLE, EDUCATING THE THE YOUNG PEOPLE, EDUCATING THE
PARENTS WHAT TO LOOK FOR, WHAT PARENTS WHAT TO LOOK FOR, WHAT
STEPS TO TAKE, WHAT THEY CAN DO STEPS TO TAKE, WHAT THEY CAN DO
TO TRY AND MINIMIZE ANYBODY FROM TO TRY AND MINIMIZE ANYBODY FROM
TRYING TO STEAL THEIR TRYING TO STEAL THEIR
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
IF THAT FAILS, UNFORTUNATELY, IT IF THAT FAILS, UNFORTUNATELY, IT
GOES INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND GOES INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND
THAT’S WHERE WE STEP IN MAKE THE THAT’S WHERE WE STEP IN MAKE THE
ARREST, AND THE LAST IS ARREST, AND THE LAST IS
INTERVENTION WHERE SOCIAL INTERVENTION WHERE SOCIAL
SERVICES WILL STEP IN. SERVICES WILL STEP IN.
HOPEFULLY WE DON’T HAVE REPEAT HOPEFULLY WE DON’T HAVE REPEAT
OFFENDERS. OFFENDERS.
>>WITH THAT, WE HAVE RUN OUT OF >>WITH THAT, WE HAVE RUN OUT OF
TIME. TIME.
BUT A FINAL REMINDER TO THE BUT A FINAL REMINDER TO THE
PUBLIC THAT IT IS NOT JUST THE PUBLIC THAT IT IS NOT JUST THE
SHERIFF. SHERIFF.
IT IS NOT JUST THE MEG UNIT. IT IS NOT JUST THE MEG UNIT.
ITS NOT JUST THE HEALTH ITS NOT JUST THE HEALTH
DEPARTMENT. DEPARTMENT.
IT IS EVERYBODY THAT WILL HELP IT IS EVERYBODY THAT WILL HELP
MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN COMBATING MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN COMBATING
THIS ISSUE. THIS ISSUE.
WE’D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO WE’D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO
RENE SANDOVAL, THE DIRECTOR OF RENE SANDOVAL, THE DIRECTOR OF
THE MEG UNIT HERE IN CENTRAL THE MEG UNIT HERE IN CENTRAL
ILLINOIS, AND TO AMY TIPPEY WHO ILLINOIS, AND TO AMY TIPPEY WHO
IS ADMINISTRATOR AT THE TAZEWELL IS ADMINISTRATOR AT THE TAZEWELL
COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING WITH US THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING WITH US
ON “AT ISSUE.” AND SHERIFF BOB ON “AT ISSUE.” AND SHERIFF BOB
HUSTON, SHERIFF OF TAZEWELL HUSTON, SHERIFF OF TAZEWELL
COUNTY. COUNTY.
>>THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. >>THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
WE WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH WE WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH
ANOTHER EDITION OF “AT ISSUE.” ANOTHER EDITION OF “AT ISSUE.”
PLEASE JOIN US THEN. PLEASE JOIN US THEN.
>>

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