Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders Spar On Health Care | MSNBC



Secretary Clinton senator Sanders favors what he calls Medicare for all now you said that what he is proposing would tear up Obamacare and replace it Secretary Clinton isn't really fair to say that Bernie Sanders wants to kill Obamacare well Andrea I am absolutely committed universal health care I've worked on this for a long time people may remember that I took on the health insurance industry back in the 90s and I didn't quit until we got the children's health insurance program that ensures eight million kids and I certainly respect senator Sanders intentions but when you're talking about health care the details really Madol matter and therefore we have been raising questions about the nine bills that he introduced over 20 years as to how they would work and what would be the impact on people's health care he didn't like that his campaign didn't like it either and tonight he's come out with a new health care plan and again we need to get into the details but here's what I believe the democratic party in the united states worked since harry truman to get the Affordable Care Act passed we finally have a path to universal health care we've accomplished so much already I do not want to see the Republicans repeal it and I don't want to see us start over again with a contentious debate I want us to defend and build on the Affordable Care Act and in Secretary Clinton didn't answer your question because what her campaign was saying a Bernie Sanders who was fought for universal health care for my entire life he wants to end Medicare and Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program that is nonsense what a medicare-for-all program does is finally provide in this country health care if every man woman and child is a right now the truth is that Franklin Delano Roosevelt Harry Truman you know what they believed in they believed that health care should be available to all of our people I'm on the committee that wrote the Affordable Care Act I made the fordable Care Act along with Jim Clyburn a better a piece of legislation I voted for it but right now what we have to deal with is the fact that 29 million people still have no health insurance we are paying the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs getting ripped off and here's the important point we are spending far more per person on health care than the people of any other country my proposal provide health care to all people get private insurance out of health insurance lower the cost of health care for middle class families by five thousand bucks that's the vision we need to take I have to say I'm not sure whether we're talking about the plan you just introduced tonight or we're talking about the plan you introduced nine times in the Congress but the fact is we have the affordable care act that is one of the greatest accomplishments of President Obama of the Democratic Party and of our country and we have already seen 19 million Americans get insurance we have seen the end of pre-existing conditions keeping people from getting insurance we have seen women no longer paying more for our insurance than men and we have seen young people up to the age of 26 being able to stay on their parents policy well I know there are things we can do to improve it but to tear it up and start over again pushing our country back into that kind of a contentious debate I think is the wrong direction I have to talk about something go forward but with the secretary neglected to mention not just the 29 million still have no health insurance that even more are underinsured with huge co-payments and deductibles tell me why we are spending almost three times more than the British who guarantee health care to all of their people 50% more than the French more than the Canadians the vision from FDR and Harry Truman was health care for all people as a right in a cost-effective way we're not gonna tear up the Affordable Care Act I helped write it but we are going to move on top of that to a Medicare instead of Andrea I think instead of attacking one another on health care we should be talking about the things that are actually working in our state we have moved to an all payer system with the Affordable Care Act we now have moved all of our acute care hospitals that driver have cost at the center away from fee-for-service and actually to pay we pay them based on how well they keep patients out of the hospital how well they keep their patients that's the future we need to build on the Affordable Care Act do the things that work and reduce costs and increase access we are able to do based on the foundation of the Affordable Care Act what Governor O'Malley just said is one of the models that we will be looking at to make sure we do get costs down we do limit a lot of the unnecessary cost that we still have in the system but with all due respect to start over again with a whole new debate is something that I think would set us back the Republicans just voted last week to repeal the Affordable Care Act and thank goodness President Obama vetoed it and saved Obama care for the American people you've talked about medicare-for-all tonight you've released a very detailed plan two hours before the debate you did but let me ask you about Vermont because in Vermont you tried in the state of Vermont and Vermont walked away from this kind of idea of medicare for all single-payer because they concluded it would require major tax increases some estimates that would double the budget the governor of the state of Vermont why he could not do it I'm not the governor I'm the senator from the state of Vermont but second of all second of all here is what the real point is in terms of all of the issues you've raised the good question is you've raised you know what it all comes down to do you know why we can't do what every other country major country on earth is doing it's because we have a campaign finance system that is corrupt we have super PACs we have the pharmaceutical industry pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into campaign contributions and lobbying and the private insurance companies as well what this is really about it's not the rational way to go forward it's Medicare for all it is whether we have the guts to stand up to the private insurance companies and all of their money and the pharmaceutical industry that's what this debate should be about as someone who has a little bit of experience standing up to the health insurance industry that's been many millions of dollars attacking me and probably will so again because of what I believe we can do building on the Affordable Care Act I think it's important to point out that there are a lot of reasons we have the health care system we have today I know how much money influences the political decision making that's why I'm for huge campaign finance reform however we started a system that had private health insurance and even during the Affordable Care Act debate there was an opportunity to vote for what was called the public option in other words people could buy in to Medicare and even when the Democrats were in charge of the Congress we couldn't get the votes for that so what I'm saying is really simple this has been the fight of the Democratic Party for decades we have the Affordable Care Act let's make it work let's take the models that states are doing we now have driven costs down to the lowest they've been in 50 years now we've got to get individual costs down that's what I'm planning we're gonna pay YouTube fans I'm Luke Russert thanks for checking out our MSNBC channel subscribe by clicking right here and click any of the videos over here to watch the latest breaking news mini-documentaries conversations from shift and other digital exclusives check it out

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  1. It won't work. There is no such thing as free. BUT work your butt off while your pregnant and watch so much money being taken out of your check. It's sad… There is no such thing of free health care. Some one somewhere is going to pay for it. Doctors and nurses are going to need to get paid. The sciencetes that come up with the medicane and the equentment that help us and keep us alive. Are going to need to get paid. Everyone has a family to provided for are going to need their money. Why do these people think they have a right to free stuff when it's not free for other people.

  2. Why doesn't she just go away. She took us down once I like her but I don't want to see us loose again when we have others that may have a better chance. I would hate to see history repeat.

  3. It's so sad to hear Clinton make those wrong arguments on healthcare. Damnit it sucks to be apart a Democratic party that wants to protect corporate interests first and help people 2nd

  4. ACA taught us all that there is a big difference between having health care insurance …….. and actually having health care.

  5. When Bernie says 'all the people' get health insurance he also means all those illegal aliens and foriegn nationals who are in the US. What this clip shows is Bernie fighting to virtue signal that he can be a champion of the hand-out state policies. When he then mentions FDR that is because FDR was a socialist and realize today socialism comes in many flavors and some of those flavors they feel they are 'capitalist' but they are not, so we can view ordoliberalism and other flavors as a type of 'capitalism' that seeks to use what appears to be capitalism toward socialists ends. That is the prevailing ideology that rules globalist thinking. There is really only an illusion of a free market or rather a limited market. Keep in mind then that price controls and supply management are all part of this socialist-capitalist ideology. Think of socialists as coming in flavors and the get elected type, such as Clinton or Bernie (what you mean to say they are both socialists). Yes, they are, but they are different flavors of it. Central planning is just as much a part of Clinton as it is Bernie, and so to with Mitt Romney. What? but he is Republican. Yup.

    The truth is they are seeking to social engineer and ultimately it is not so much about income redistribution as much as using debt since no the US doesn't have the money. The best way to do that is to provide more and more. Democracy has become weaponized. Of course you can get a lot of dependent people to want things if you fill their head with how 'health care is a right'. How about we make a civil liberty? Of course, if you go down that rabbit hole you'll discover things that were 'rights' are now called 'liberties' and things that are actually liberties are called 'rights'.

  6. Any enemy of my enemy is my friend love seeing Bernie attack killary. They stole the nomination from him. Killary u think as she gets older we can see her black heart shrivel up

  7. Bernie talks social democracy, but says he's a democratic socialist. Two very different things. So which is he?

  8. Lol, the way Democrats rave about the ACA as some great thing is hilarious. The ACA is mandated PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT HEALTH INSURANCE. It is a machine that feeds private corporations BY LAW. It's a sick, sick joke, that's what it is.

  9. Imagine how great this country would be if Hillary were the Republican Nominee and Bernie were the Democratic Nominee.

  10. So let me get this straight, Medicare for all will cover everyone in the US. Obamacare doesn't cover everyone in the US. But if we switch to Obamacare to Medicare for All, we are moving backwards? Clinton Logic.

  11. 5:22 The devilwoman herself sure gave O'Malley the stank eye. It said "How dare you talk w/out permission and ruin what I just lied about. You've been blacklisted. I already have this locked up. Stop screwing it up or youll get a visit from the same Airplane Engine Gremlins we employ when people speak up against us."

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