Mid-American Gardener – May 23, 2019

(CALMING GUITAR MUSIC) – HELLO, AND THANKS FOR
JOINING US FOR ANOTHER EPISODE OF MID-AMERICAN GARDENER, I’M
YOUR HOST, AND MASHER GARDENER INTERN,
TINISHA SHADE-SPAIN, AND WE’VE GOT LOTS OF SHOW
AND TELLS TO GET THROUGH, AND SOME REALLY GREAT
QUESTIONS THAT YOU SENT IN, SO WHY DON’T WE JUST GO
AHEAD AND GET STARTED. LET’S BEGIN BY HAVING OUR
PANELISTS INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THEIR SPECIALTY. SO, WE’LL START DOWN THERE WITH
YOU. – HI, I’M ELLA MAXWELL. I WORK UP AT HOERR NURSERY UP IN
PEORIA, I’M A HORTICULTURIST
AND A MASTER GARDENER, AND I ENJOY PERENNIALS, TREES,
AND SHRUBS. – OKAY, ALL RIGHT. – I’M DON WHITE, I’M AN AMERICAN
PROFESSOR OF PLANT PATHOLOGY FROM
UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS. WHILE I WAS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
ILLINOIS, I TAUGHT INTRODUCTORY PLANT
PATHOLOGY, DISEASES OF FIELD CROPS, AND DISEASES OF ORNAMENTALS
AND TURF GRASSES. AND I WORKED ON CORN
DISEASES FOR A RESEARCH AREA. WHEN I RETIRED, I GOT VERY
BORED, AND BECAME A MASTER GARDENER,
WHICH IS A LOT OF FUN. – ALL RIGHT, LAST BUT NOT LEAST. – HI, I’M KAREN RUCKLE,
AND I’M A HORTICULTURIST IN THE PEORIA AREA, AND I ENJOY PERENNIALS, HOUSEPLANTS, SHRUBS. – WONDERFUL, OKAY, SO AS
PROMISED, THEY BROUGHT A LOT OF
THINGS TO SHARE WITH YOU, SO ELLA, WE’LL START WITH YOU. WHAT DID YOU BRING US? – OKAY, WELL THE FIRST
THING THAT I BROUGHT WAS A BUMBLEBEE HOUSE,
RIGHT HERE, THAT I MADE. THIS IS A LITTLE COVER
TO KIND OF KEEP IT DRY, BUT BUMBLEBEES ARE SEMI-SOCIAL
BEES, NATIVE BEES, AND THE
QUEEN, A FERTILIZED QUEEN WILL OVER-WINTER, AND IN THE
SPRING SHE’S LOOKING FOR A
PLACE TO RAISE HER YOUNG. SO, A BUMBLEBEE HOUSE
NORMALLY HAS TWO CHAMBERS. ONE IS THE BROOD NEST,
HERE, AND I’VE ADDED SOME LITTLE MOSS, TWIGS,
FROM AN OLD BIRD NEST, AND THEN THERE’S KIND OF LIKE A
VESTIBULE, AND I HAVE CARDBOARD UNDER BOTH
OF THESE SO I CAN EASILY CLEAN IT
OUT FROM YEAR TO YEAR, BECAUSE SHE WILL NOT STAY
IN THIS OVER THE WINTER. SHE WILL HAVE SOME FERTILIZED, SHE’LL LAY SOME EGGS
THAT WILL BE FEMALE BEES, AND IN THE FALL THEY’LL MATE, AND BECOME QUEENS FOR THE NEXT
YEAR. THEY SOMETIMES WILL NEST IN
RODENT BURROWS UNDERGROUND, SO I’VE GOT THIS LITTLE
OPENING RIGHT IN HERE THAT SHE CAN GO INTO THAT FIRST
ROOM. BEES, DON’T REALLY
DEFECATE IN THEIR HIVES, SO IF SHE CAN’T GET OUT
‘CAUSE OF THE WEATHER, SHE’LL GO OUT THERE,
AND THEN I’VE ALSO GOT SOME LITTLE HOLES SO THAT SHE
CAN MOVE HER WAY INTO THE BROOD
CHAMBER. BUT YOU CAN GO ONLINE
AND SEE DIFFERENT STYLES, BUT I’VE GOT IT OUT NOW. IN THE MONTH OF APRIL YOU’LL
WANT TO PLACE THEM OUTSIDE, BECAUSE THE QUEENS ARE DONE
HIBERNATING, AND THEY’RE OUT LOOKING FOR
NESTING SITES, SO I HOPE I’LL GET BUMBLEBEES
THIS YEAR. – IS THERE A SPECIFIC PLACE IN
YOUR YARD? I DON’T KNOW IF IT’S NEAR TREES, OR AWAY FROM TREES, OR, YOU
KNOW, IS THERE A SPECIFIC SPOT THAT
THEY LIKE, THAT YOU’LL HAVE MORE
LUCK GETTING THEM TO STAY? – YOU KNOW, THIS IS NEW
FOR ME, SO I’M NOT SURE. BUMBLEBEES NEST IN THE GROUND,
OR EVEN AT GROUND LEVEL. ONE YEAR, I DID HAVE THEM
IN AN ABANDONED BIRDHOUSE, AND ANOTHER YEAR I HAD THEM IN A
BOOT. (TINESHA LAUGHING) SO, I DID READ A BOOK THAT
TALKED ABOUT PUTTING BOOTS OUT IN YOUR YARD.
(CHUCKLES) – (LAUGHING) INTERESTING. – YEAH, YOU LAY ‘EM DOWN ON
THEIR SIDE, SO THEY CAN CRAWL IN
AND STAY DRY, OF COURSE, BUT I’VE PLACED THIS UP AGAINST
A SHED ON THE SOUTH-FACING SIDE,
ON A SMALL STEPPING STONE, TO KEEP IT UP OFF OF THE
DAMP SOIL, WE’LL SEE. – ALL RIGHT, AWESOME,
WE’LL HAVE TO GET SOME UPDATES LATER TO FIND OUT IF ANYONE’S MOVED IN OR NOT.
– RIGHT, RIGHT. – OKAY, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO
MUCH. ALL RIGHT, DON, YOU’VE GOT SOME
SLIDES YOU WANNA SHOW, TELL US WHAT WE’RE GONNA BE SEEING.
– YES, I DO. FIRST SLIDE, THESE ARE
NEMATODES. ALL PLANTS OUTSIDE IN NATURAL
SOIL ARE GONNA HAVE NEMATODES
ON THE ROOTS SOMEWHERE, AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT CAUSE NOTICEABLE DAMAGE TO THE PLANT. NEXT SLIDE. YOU SEE HERE WE GOT TWO SHRUBS. THEY CAME FROM DIFFERENT
FIELDS, ONE OF WHICH HAD BEEN TREATED WITH
INSECTICIDE, NEMATOCIDE, TO CONTROL THE NEMATODES, AND
IT’S BIGGER. THE OTHER ONE HAD BACKGROUND
NEMATODE POPULATION. SO THE NEMATODES CAN CAUSE A
STUNTING, AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT
SOMETIMES, IF YOU GOT THE PLANTS IN POOR
SOILS, IN A BAD LOCATION, THE
NEMATODES PLUS THE POOR SOILS, YOU REALLY END UP WITH
A SICK LOOKIN’ PLANT. NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE
HERE THE ROOT SYSTEM IS ALL GNARLED AND DOESN’T LOOK
RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE A INDIVIDUAL
NEMATODE. THESE ARE NOT BIG ENOUGH TO BE
FISH BAIT. (TINISHA CHUCKLES) NUMBER FIVE NOW, SLIDE NUMBER
FIVE, YOU CAN SEE I GOT THE THE ARROW
POINTED AT WHAT’S CALLED A STYLET. THIS IS LIKE A HYPODERMIC
NEEDLE. IT INSERTS IT INTO THE HOST
AND SUCKS OUT THE NUTRIENT. NOW WHAT’LL HAPPEN, TOO,
THERE’S SOME NEMATODES THAT ACTUALLY PRODUCE A TOXIN, THEY’LL SQUIRT THOSE INTO THE
HOST AND KILL THE TIP OF THE ROOT. NEXT SLIDE IS A LITTLE
BIT CLOSER UP, NUMBER SIX, CLOSER UP OF THE HEAD, AND YOU
CAN SEE THE SUCKY MOUTH PARTS. NEXT SLIDE, I WORK ON CORN,
OKAY? SO I HAD TO PUT THE CORN PLANT. THESE CAME FROM TWO DIFFERENT
TREATMENTS. THE ROOT SYSTEM IS MUCH BIGGER, AND WAS TREATED WITH A CHEMICAL
FOR CONTROL OF NEMATODES, AND THERE’S CHEMICAL CONTROLS
NOW THAT ARE SOLD IN THE STATE FOR CONTROL OF NEMATODES
ON CORN AND BEANS. THE PROBLEM IS, IF YOU GOT
PROBLEMS WITH NEMATODES AND YOU’RE A HOMEOWNER,
YOU’RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO MUCH WITH
IT, BECAUSE YOU CAN NO LONGER
BUY THE INSECTICIDES, NEMATOCIDES THAT ARE REALLY
EFFECTIVE. THERE’S SOME YOU CAN BUY,
BUT NOT VERY GOOD ONES. THE LAST SLIDE, THIS IS A
REMOTE CONTROL FUMIGATION RIG, AND THIS THING INJECTED
METHYLBROMIDE AND CHLOROPICRIN INTO THE SOIL. IT KILLED FUNGI, BACTERIA,
WEED SEEDS, AND EVERYTHING. IT’S ONE WAY TO CLEAN UP THE
NURSERY, AND THE METHYLBROMIDE THAT WAS
USED IS NO LONGER ALLOWED SINCE ABOUT
2005, WHICH IS GOOD, ‘CAUSE IT WAS
DAMAGING THE ENVIRONMENT. THE METHYLBROMIDE IS STILL USED TO FUMIGATE SHIPMENTS OF
MATERIALS COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES TO TRY TO STOP ANOTHER INVADER. SO, THAT’S YOUR NEMATODES, YOU
GOT ‘EM. FOR A HOMEOWNER, SHRUBS
AND THINGS LIKE THAT ADD A LOT OF NUTRIENTS IN
THE WAY OF ORGANIC MATTER TO THE SOIL, IT HELPS
CONTROL THE NEMATODE, AND ONE THING I’VE ALWAYS WANTED
TO TRY IS THE SOLARIZATION THING, WHERE
YOU PUT THE CLEAR PLASTIC OVER A GARDEN
AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE
WINTER, AND IT COOKS OUT THE WEED SEEDS,
AND SOME OF THE NEMATODES. – SO, AS A GARDENER AT
HOME, HOW WOULD I KNOW IF I’M DEALING WITH THIS
PROBLEM? – YOU KNOW YOU’RE GONNA HAVE IT. – OKAY. – OKAY, THE NUMBER OF NEMATODE
PROBLEMS IN A GEOGRAPHICAL AREA
ARE DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL TO THE NUMBER OF NEMATOLOGISTS. (ALL LAUGHING) SO YOU’RE GONNA HAVE IT. – GOT IT. – THE THING OF IT IS, YOU’RE
MORE LIKELY TO SEE AN EFFECT ON THE PLANT IF YOU ALSO HAVE LOW NUTRIENT
BACKGROUND, IF YOU DON’T HAVE A LOT OF
ORGANIC MATTER IN THE SOIL, BECAUSE THE FUNGI AND THE
BACTERIA IN THE SOIL COMPETE WITH THE POOR NEMATODES, OKAY? SO YOU WANNA GET THAT GOOD
DRAINAGE, YOU DON’T WANT ROOT ROTS
COMIN’ IN THERE ALSO. ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO IMPROVE
THE HEALTH OF THE PLANT WILL MAKE THE SYMPTOMS GO AWAY. – AND YOU SAID THAT
YOU’LL SEE SOME STUNTING OF THE PLANT ITSELF, IF IT’S– – YOU’LL SEE SOME, RELATIVE
TO A HEALTHY PLANT, BUT, SEE, THE PROBLEM IS, UNLESS
YOU GOT THE HEALTHY PLANT RIGHT NEXT TO
IT, YOU’RE NOT GONNA KNOW IT.
– YOU WON’T KNOW, THAT’S A GOOD POINT. – THE ONE THING, THOUGH, TO
BRING UP IS THAT THERE ARE FOLIAR
NEMATODES, AND THAT’S WHERE YOU’RE GONNA
SEE DAMAGE ON YOUR PLANTS. – OH, THOSE ARE REALLY NEAT.
(TINISHA AND KAREN LAUGHING) – THEY HAVE REALLY BECOME
PROBLEMATIC IN HOSTAS. YOU CAN ALSO, CAN BE ON
FERNS, CHRYSANTHEMUMS, A COUPLE OF, WELL QUITE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT VARIETIES,
AND THEY CAUSE A LOT OF AESTHETIC DAMAGE
– OH, YEAH. – AND THEY’RE DOING A LOT OF
RESEARCH NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GENUS HOSTA, THE AMERICAN HOSTA SOCIETY
IS TRYING VERY HARD TO CONTROL THE FOLIAR TYPE
NEMATODES THAT CAN LIVE OVER THE WINTER AND REINFECT THE PLANT YEAR
AFTER YEAR, AND IT DOES KIND OF DIMINISH THE
PLANT. – THE NICE THING ABOUT THE
FOLIAR NEMATODE ON HOSTAS, THERE ARE SOME HOSTAS THAT DON’T
GET IT. YOU CAN HAVE ‘EM SIDE BY SIDE, SOME OF ‘EM WILL HAVE THESE
LONG STREAKS ON THE LEAF THAT’S THE FOLIAR NEMATODE,
OTHERS DON’T HAVE IT. – YEAH, I GUESS THAT’S TRUE.
– INTERESTING, INTERESTING. OKAY, WELL, SOMETHING TO
LOOK FOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT, LAST BUT NOT LEAST,
KAREN, WHAT’D YOU BRING FOR US? – WELL I AM SO HAPPY IT’S
SPRING. AND WITH SPRING,
– YES, FINALLY! – IS THE RETURN OF
HUMMINGBIRDS TO OUR AREA. AND LAST SUMMER, I HAD THE
PLEASURE OF GOING TO HUMMINGBIRD HAVEN. IT’S A LITTLE FARM PLACE
OUT IN SMITHFIELD, ILLINOIS, AND LOIS WHITE IS JUST THIS
AMAZING, VIVACIOUS WOMAN WHO’S JUST COMMITTED TO
HUMMINGBIRDS, SO I AM NOW A STUDENT OF HERS, AND SO, GETTING OUT YOUR
HUMMINGBIRD FEEDERS, GETTING THEM CLEANED, PUTTING
THEM OUT, I NOW HANG MORE OF THEM
AFTER BEING TO HER PLACE. WITH YOUR HUMMINGBIRD FEEDERS, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL
HAVE TROUBLE WITH ANTS, SO THEY HAVE THESE LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU’D HANG ABOVE
THEM THAT REPEL THE ANTS. IT HAS A LITTLE DISK INSIDE,
THAT HELPS REPEL THE ANTS. BUT, WITH THE HUMMINGBIRD
FEEDERS, THERE IS A COMMITMENT
TO KEEPING THEM CLEAN. SO THAT THE HOTTER THE
WEATHER GETS IN THE SUMMER, YOUR SUGAR WATER OUT THERE,
YOU’VE GOTTA KEEP UP WITH THAT, TO KEEP THEM CLEAN SO THAT
YOUR BIRDS ARE HEALTHY. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF
YOU’RE NOT WANTING TO GO TO THE EXTRA WORK OF DOING A
FEEDER, I THINK A FEEDER’S NICE
‘CAUSE IT BRINGS ‘EM CLOSER TO WHERE YOU WANT TO SEE THEM
EVERY DAY, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT MY
FAVORITE PLANT, AND LOIS WHITE’S FAVORITE PLANT. SO, HER FAVORITE PLANT AT HER
PLACE IS THIS HONEYSUCKLE VINE, AND
IT’S CALLED MAJOR WHEELER, AND AT HER FARM LAST
SUMMER, THIS WAS ON THE SIDE OF A BARN OR A BUILDING,
AND IT WAS JUST COVERED WITH PINKISH-RED BLOOMS ALL OVER
IT. SO THAT IS HER FAVORITE PLANT FOR ATTRACTING THE
HUMMINGBIRDS TO THE YARD. MY FAVORITE PLANT IS
THESE DIFFERENT SALVIAS. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE
PERPLEXED, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE SALVIAS, THIS IS AMISTED, IT’S A PURPLE, MY FAVORITE IS BLACK AND BLUE, OR BLACK AND BLOOM, THAT’S A
BLUE, BUT THEY’RE NOT WHAT PEOPLE
THINK OF, OH, ONLY RED ATTRACTS THE
HUMMINGBIRDS, – GOTCHA.
– SO I LOVE THE ANNUAL, BECAUSE THAT IT’S GONNA
FLOWER ALL SUMMER INTO FALL, SO IT GIVES A CONSTANT SOURCE OF
NECTAR, TO BRING IN THE HUMMINGBIRDS. THIS IS TRIED AND TRUE
WITH FRIENDS OF MINE WHO HAVEN’T SEEN A
HUMMINGBIRD IN THEIR YARD, THEY’VE PUT ONE OF THESE IN
THEIR YARD, AND THEY WILL SEE A HUMMINGBIRD
AT IT. THE PROBLEM IS, A LOT OF
THE HUMMINGBIRDS KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SCHEDULE, WHERE THEY GO TO CERTAIN YARDS, OR CERTAIN AREAS OF
THE YARD DURING A TIME. SO LIKE AT MY HOUSE, I’LL
USUALLY SEE THE HUMMINGBIRDS AT THE FEEDERS AROUND SIX
O’CLOCK, AND THEN MAYBE FROM FIVE
TO SIX P.M. IN THE EVENING. ONCE IN AWHILE I’LL HEAR
‘EM THROUGH THE DAY, SO IT’S SOMETIMES TRYING TO
CATCH WHEN THEY MIGHT BE IN YOUR YARD, ‘CAUSE YOU COULD HAVE A
HUMMINGBIRD VISIT YOUR YARD, YOU JUST DIDN’T SEE IT. – IS IT TRUE THAT THEY
PREFER THE COLOR RED? IS THAT WHY, I DIDN’T KNOW THAT. – IT’S MORE THEY LIKE
TUBULAR-SHAPED FLOWERS FOR
FEEDING. – OKAY, OKAY. – AND NOWADAYS, WE DO NOT
PUT A RED DYE IN THE FOOD, AND WHEN I WENT TO THIS
HUMMINGBIRD HAVEN, SHE’S A BELIEVER THAT
ONLY USING PURE CANE SUGAR FOR YOUR SUGAR SOURCE… – [TINISHA] THAT WAS
GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION. – BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOUR SUGAR
CAN BE EITHER BEET SUGAR OR CANE
SUGAR AT THE GROCERY STORE, SO SHE BELIEVES IN USING
JUST PURE CANE SUGAR. – SO I’VE SEEN SOME OF THE
PREMIX STUFF. – DON’T WASTE THE MONEY. – THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION. – JUST DO IT AT HOME, IT’S
CHEAPER, AND I JUST DO UP SMALL BATCHES, A LITTLE BIT LESS IN SPRING
AS I KNOW THEY’RE COMING, AND THEN IN THE SUMMER
WHEN THEY’RE HITTING IT A LITTLE HARDER FOR FEEDING,
I’LL MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE. – THEY’RE SO FUN TO WATCH. – AND IT’S ONE TO FOUR, RIGHT? – ONE TO FOUR, YES. – IT’S LIKE SEEING A
UNICORN WHEN ONE POPS UP IN YOUR YARD, AND YOU JUST KINDA
FREEZE, AND YOU’RE LIKE, IT’S HERE!
(LAUGHS) – AND THAT WAS THE AMAZING THING
TO GO TO THIS WOMAN’S YARD, BECAUSE SHE, OVER THE YEARS
OF HER FEEDING HUMMINGBIRDS, THE POPULATION SHE’S GOT,
IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL TO SIT THERE AND SEE MORE
HUMMINGBIRDS THAN YOU’VE SEEN IN CENTRAL
ILLINOIS. – VERY COOL, VERY COOL, OKAY,
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ELLA, WE’RE BACK TO
YOU. WHAT DO YOU GOT FOR THIS ROUND? – WELL, I WAS OUT IN MY YARD,
AND I HAVE A WOODED LOT, AND I BROUGHT IN A WILD FLOWER
HERE, SPRING JACK-IN-A-PULPIT. SO, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS AN ARISAEMA, AND IT HAS
A SPECIAL, UNIQUE FRUITING STRUCTURE, AND
IT’S CALLED JACK-IN-A-PULPIT, BECAUSE THE SPADIX IN HERE IS
THEN COVERED BY THIS SPATHE, AND IT’S KIND OF HOODED,
AND SO IT HAS THIS THREE-LEAF, AND IT WAS
CALLED INDIAN TURNIP, BUT DO NOT EAT THEM RAW,
THEY CAN CAUSE BLISTERS. THE TUBER, OR THE CORM, IS KIND
OF SMALL, SO I CAN’T SEE WHY YOU’D
WANNA EAT THEM, BUT YOU COULD. SO THEY’RE JUST COMING UP NOW, AND THERE’S LOTS OF DIFFERENT
VARIETIES. DON AND I WERE TALKING, HE
GROWS ONE CALLED GREEN DRAGON, I BELIEVE, AND SO WHEN I WAS OUT LOOKING AROUND FOR THESE, (DON GROWLS)
I FOUND GARLIC MUSTARD, (TINISHA AND ELLA CHUCKLING) WHICH IS A EXOTIC INVASIVE, AND WE THINK THAT IT’S A PROBLEM
NOW, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY INTRODUCED
IN 1868. IT DOES HAVE SOME MEDICINAL
AND FOOD PROPERTIES. IT CAME FROM EUROPE, AND
IT’S ALL THE WAY INTO ASIA. BUT, THE LEAVES ARE
KIND OF GARLIC-TASTING, AND IN THE SPRING, THEY’RE
RATHER TENDER, AND YOU CAN USE THEM IN,
LIKE, A PESTO RECIPE. SO THEY ARE EDIBLE, BUT
THEY ARE ALLELOPATHIC, AND THE ROOT KIND OF HAS
A LITTLE S OR L SHAPE. AND IT SECRETES A CHEMICAL
THAT CAN BE DETRIMENTAL TO OTHER PLANTS, SO IT CAN
TAKE OVER NATIVE AREAS, AND DRIVE OUT THE NATIVE
VEGETATION. IT SETS THESE WHITE FLOWERS,
AND IT’S IN THE MUSTARD FAMILY. IT MAKES THESE LITTLE SEED PODS, BUT ONE PLANT CAN JUST
MAKE THOUSANDS OF SEEDS, AND SO THOSE SEEDS ARE GOING TO
BE IN YOUR SOIL FOR A LONG TIME. I’VE BEEN AT MY PROPERTY FOR 17
YEARS, WE HAND PULL, AND WE STILL HAVE
SOME. YOU CAN’T JUST PULL IT UP AND
LAY IT DOWN, BECAUSE IT CAN STILL
COMPLETE ITS LIFE CYCLE, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU
WANT TO BURY, OR BURN, OR SEND OFF
TO THE COMPOST, I GUESS. – WHY DID YOU GROWL, YOU’RE NOT
A FAN? – OH, I HATE THAT STUFF. (ALL LAUGHING) – JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
FIGHT WITH IT IN YOUR YARD, OR IS THERE ANOTHER BACKSTORY?
– OH YEAH, YEAH. NAH, I JUST HATE IT. – JUST HATE IT, OKAY. (CHUCKLES) ALL RIGHT, YOU’VE GOT SOME
MORE SLIDES, WHAT ARE WE GONNA SEE THIS TIME?
– OKAY I GOT ANOTHER ONE THAT’S REALLY PRETTY,
FIRST SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A DOGWOOD TREE
THAT’S GOT THIS PRETTY ORANGE GROWTH ON IT, AND
BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS, NEXT SLIDE, IT’S A YEAST FUNGUS THAT IS GROWING ON THE SAP,
OKAY? AND THE SAP OOZED OUT IN THE
SPRING, THE FUNGUS COLONIZES IT. I’D KIND OF LIKE TO ESTABLISH IT ON SOME DIFFERENT PLANTS,
BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS ITS OWN ORNAMENTAL VALUE. – I THINK ROCKS, I THINK ON
ROCKS. – NO, YOU GOTTA HAVE,
IT’S SUPPOSED TO OOZE SAP. – OH, OKAY, – AND HERE THE LAST SLIDE, THE PERSON WHO HAD THIS
DECIDED SHE DIDN’T WANT IT, SO SHE WAS TRYING TO GET RID OF
IT. BUT, IT DOESN’T HURT THE
PLANT, IT’S NOT INTERNAL. THE FUNGUS JUST LIVES IN THE
BARK CREVICES ON THE SURFACE, AND IT’S NOT GONNA HURT
ANYTHING. IT MIGHT SCARE THE NEIGHBORS,
BUT THAT’S ABOUT IT. – IS IT SLIMY TO THE TOUCH? – I DIDN’T GET A CHANCE TO
TOUCH IT, BUT I BET IT IS. – INTERESTING, IT LOOKS PRETTY
GROSS. (LAUGHING) – WELL GROSS IS UP TO WHO’S
LOOKIN’. – YEAH, I GUESS THAT IS
RELATIVE, RIGHT? – THAT’S RIGHT.
– RIGHT, OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALL RIGHT, WE’RE BACK AROUND TO YOU KAREN, AND WHAT DO YOU GOT? (LAUGHING) – WELL, IN SPRING, I WANTED TO
TALK ABOUT PLANTS YOU’RE GETTING, AND THEN
TRYING TO KEEP ‘EM YEAR AFTER YEAR. THIS IS A DRAGON WING
BEGONIA THAT, IN 2016, IN THE SUMMER, I POTTED
UP IN THIS FIBER POT. SO, EVEN FIBER POTS, A LOT OF
PEOPLE THINK THEY’RE ONE SEASON.
– I REALLY LIKE THAT, I HAD TO KIND OF TOUCH IT
TO MAKE SURE IT WAS REAL. – BUT IT’S STARTING TO GO ON THE
WAYSIDE, BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, YOU
KNOW, IF YOU WANNA KEEP PLANTS,
SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THE LEAVES HAVE GROWN INSIDE, THEY’RE NOT USED TO THE OUTSIDE
SUN. JUST LIKE WE CAN HAVE SUN DAMAGE
TO US, YOU CAN SUNBURN THE
LEAVES, SO IN SPRINGTIME, WHEN I TAKE THIS BACK OUTSIDE, I WILL SEVERELY JUST CUT THE
PLANT BACK, PRETTY GOOD, TO GET RID OF A LOT OF THE FOLIAGE THAT GREW IN THE
WINTER, SO THAT WHEN IT STARTS TO SPROUT
OUTSIDE, THAT NEW GROWTH IS USED TO
THE LIGHT LEVELS OUTSIDE. NOW, SINCE THIS HAS
BEEN IN HERE SINCE 2016, IT’S ABOUT TIME TO PUT IT IN
ANOTHER POT, AND THE BOTTOM IS BEGINNING TO
ROT OUT. SO I LIKE TAKING A SHARP SAW, AND THIS IS A LITTLE DRYWALL
SAW, ‘CAUSE I’M NOT HANDY, SO I
USE IT FOR GARDENING THINGS, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS REAL
GREAT. ONCE YOU KNOCK THIS OUT OF THE
POT, JUST SAWING THROUGH THE SOIL
SO THAT YOU CAN GET CHUNKS, SO THAT THEN I CAN
RE-POT IT INTO NEW SOIL, AND GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE
ROOM. – LOOKS VERY HEALTHY, SO ARE YOU
GONNA SEPARATE THIS, OR KEEP IT ALL AS
ONE, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
– I WILL PROBABLY SEPARATE IT, BECAUSE THERE ARE FOUR PLANTS IN
HERE, AND IT’S GETTING A LITTLE
CROWDED. – NICE. – SO MAYBE GIVE A COUPLE AWAY,
AND THEN KEEP THE OTHERS. YOU CAN DO ROOTINGS, YOU KNOW,
THE CUTTINGS AND ROOT THOSE. I’M A LITTLE LAZY, SO
THAT’S MORE LABOR INTENSIVE, SO JUST CHOPPING BACK,
KEEPING THE PARENT PLANT, BUT THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR,
SOME OF THESE PLANTS, YOU DON’T HAVE TO BUY
AGAIN, YOU CAN SAVE THEM, AND THIS JUST SAT IN MY
BASEMENT THAT’S KINDA COOL, NEAR A WINDOW, AND JUST
WAS HOPING FOR BETTER DAYS. SO BETTER DAYS ARE COMIN’ FOR
IT. – SO WOULD YOU CHOP OFF
ALL OF THESE BLOOMS, AND JUST EVERYTHING?
– YEAH, IT WOULD JUST BE LITTLE STUBS.
– TAKE IT ALL THE WAY BACK? GOTCHA, OKAY, GREAT ADVICE,
ALL RIGHT, WONDERFUL. WE ARE BACK AROUND TO YOU,
WITH A PLANT ID QUESTION. – OH, OKAY. – KATHY RIMMERS WANTS TO
KNOW WHAT THIS BUSH IS. – KATHY, WE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT, AND WE DO THINK IT’S A VIBURNUM, AND HOW DID WE COME TO THAT
CONCLUSION? THE FIRST THING YOU WANT TO DO IN IDENTIFYING SOMETHING, IS TO
SEE WHAT KIND OF LEAF ARRANGEMENT IT
HAS, BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP TO TELL
YOU WHAT FAMILY IT COMES FROM, AND IN THE PICTURE WE CAN SEE THAT THE LEAVES ARE ACTUALLY
OPPOSITE. SO TWO LEAVES ARE RIGHT
DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER, SO THAT MEANS THAT IT COULD BE A
VIBURNUM, MAYBE IT COULD’VE BEEN A
DOGWOOD. DIFFERENT KINDS OF TREES AND
THINGS, ALSO ARE OPPOSITE, LIKE THE
MAPLES. THEN, WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN IT’S
BLOOMING. SO WE’RE ASSUMING FROM THE
PICTURE HERE THAT THIS WAS SPRING, AND WE
SEE THESE KIND OF PINKISH, UMBEL-LIKE FLOWERS, AND
UPON CLOSER EXAMINATION, AGAIN WE DO THINK THAT IT’S SOME
TYPE OF FRAGRANT VIBURNUM, SO
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING INDICATING WHAT IT WAS TOO, IS WHETHER THESE HAD FRAGRANCE
OR NOT. SO I DO HOPE THAT THAT HELPS
YOU. SO WE THINK IT’S ONE
TYPE OF FRAGRANT VIBURNUM THAT’S A SPRING BLOOMER. – THAT’S ALWAYS TOUGH. I KNOW WHEN WE MOVED INTO OUR
HOUSE, THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS
THAT WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED, AND SO YOU’RE TRYING TO
WALK AROUND AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FOLKS WHO LIVED
THERE BEFORE YOU PLANTED, AND SOME THINGS YOU CAN
IDENTIFY,
AND SOME THINGS YOU CAN’T. IT’S ALWAYS HARD, SOMETIMES, TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT POPS UP IN YOUR YARD, AND
SOMETIMES, THINGS YOU DON’T PLANT
JUST POP UP IN YOUR YARD, THANKS TO THE BIRDS.
– RIGHT, AND THAT’S WHEN YOU CAN TAKE SAMPLES TO YOUR
INDEPENDENT GARDEN CENTER, AND HAVE THEM HELP YOU IDENTIFY
THEM. BUT THANKS FOR SENDING IT IN. – ABSOLUTELY, OKAY DON,
WE’RE TALKING ABOUT MOSS, I BELIEVE, WITH YOU?
– YEAH, OR MAYBE I’LL TAKE THIS OTHER QUESTION EVERYBODY
KEEPS DARING ME TO TAKE. – OKAY, GO FOR IT. (ALL LAUGHING) – IT’S ONE THAT COMES OUT THAT
SAID, “DO YOU EXPERTS,” I DON’T KNOW
ABOUT THAT, “KNOW IF ANYONE HAS EVER TRIED
TO ISOLATE “AN OLIVE TREE, AND FLOOD IT
WITH WATER, “OR SMOKE TO KILL OFF XYLELLA?” WHAT THIS QUESTION IS COMING
FROM, OLIVE, IN LOTS OF AREAS OF THE
WORLD, IS BEING DECIMATED BY XYLELLA. IT’S A FASTIDIOUS PROKARYOTE. IT’S JUST A BACTERIUM WITHOUT A
CELL WALL, AND IT LIVES IN THE XYLEM. AND WE HAVE, HERE IN
URBANA, ILLINOIS, WE HAVE BACTERIAL LEAF SCORCH ON
SEVERAL DIFFERENT TREE SPECIES. BASICALLY WHAT THIS PERSON WANTS
TO DO IS TO KILL THE XYLELLA OFF
WITH HEAT, SAVE THE TREE. EVEN THOUGH THEY WANT TO TRY
TO DO IT ALSO IN THE ROOTS, I DON’T THINK YOU COULD KILL ALL
OF IT. THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE
TO GET EVERY LIVING LITTLE CREATURE OF XYLELLA,
OR IT’S GONNA COME BACK. SO, I THINK I’D JUST KIND
OF ENJOY THE HOLLOW TREE, AND LET IT HAVE ITS XYLELLA. – OKAY, HEY, GOOD ADVICE.
(CHUCKLES) OKAY, KAREN, WE’VE GOT A
QUESTION FOR YOU FROM BETTY, ABOUT SHADY
GROUND COVER PERENNIALS. NOW I’LL TRY TO READ THIS
QUICKLY. “MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN SYDNEY. “TO THE NORTH OF THEIR ONE-CAR
GARAGE “IS AN AREA, ABOUT 12 FEET BY 12
FEET, “THAT IS BOTH FULL-SHADE
AND STAYS PRETTY DRY “DUE TO AN OVERGROWN TREE
THAT REALLY NEEDS TO GO. “I’VE TRIED PLANTING THERE, “BUT IN THE SUMMER THE PLANTS
DRY OUT. “DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY
SUGGESTIONS OF GROUND COVER “OR OTHER PERENNIALS, THAT WOULD
DO WELL “IN BOTH SHADE AND DRY-ISH
CONDITIONS “THAT CAN SURVIVE IN OUR ZONE?” – WELL, AND THANK YOU TO BETTY FOR BEING A WATCHER, SHE
SAYS SHE WATCHES EVERY WEEK. OKAY, SO A FEW PLANTS FOR DRY
SHADE, AND THEN I’LL GIVE WHAT MY
ADVICE IS. SO DRY SHADE, EPIMEDIUMS,
LAMIUM, THERE’S SPOTTED DEAD NETTLE,
AND YELLOW ARCHANGEL, PACHYSANDRA, INTERESTING ENOUGH, I SAW A LOT ABOUT GOLD STANDARD
HOSTAS, A LITTLE DROUGHT-TOLERANT,
AND THEN CHRISTMAS FERN. NOW THE THING IS, I WOULD
SAY, REALLY, MY ADVICE IS DON’T PLANT ANYTHING THERE AT
ALL. IF YOU’RE SAYING A TREE NEEDS TO
GO, ONE, IT’S PROBABLY PRETTY OLD, I DOUBT YOU COULD EVEN
DIG A HOLE FOR A PLANT, SO IT’S GONNA BE HARD
TO PLANT UNDER THERE. TWO, IF YOU’RE GONNA
HAVE THAT TREE REMOVED, YOU’RE GONNA DESTROY
ANYTHING UNDERNEATH IT. SO I WOULD SAY, DO A LIGHT
MULCHING UNDERNEATH THE TREE, AND SAVE
MONEY THAT YOU WERE GONNA PLANT STUFF
NOW, FOR THAT TREE REMOVAL, AND THEN FOR RE-LANDSCAPING IN
THAT AREA. – THERE’S A GREAT PLACE TO PUT A
BENCH, SOME STEPPING STONES, A POT
ABOVE-GROUND THAT YOU CAN WATER, WITH SHADE-TOLERANT ANNUALS,
A HUMMINGBIRD FEEDER. A BIRD FEEDER…
– LOOK AT YOU, YOU’VE CREATED THIS WHOLE AREA. – A BUMBLEBEE NEST. – YES!
– SHE GOT THE WHOLE PROJECT GOING NOW.
– I MEAN, YOU CAN MAKE IT AN OUTSIDE ROOM, IS WHAT I’M
SAYING. – HERE I WAS TRYING TO HAVE
HER SAVE MONEY, FOR… (LAUGHS) – WELL AT LEAST YOU’VE
GOT A COUPLE OPTIONS NOW. – TAKE THE INSIDE OUT. – TAKE THE INSIDE OUT, I LIKE
THAT. SO UNTIL YOU’RE READY
TO TAKE THAT TREE OUT, YOU CAN TAKE ELLA’S ADVICE– – LAY NEWSPAPER ON THE GROUND,
THROW MULCH ON TOP OF IT, SAY DONE. – MIGHT BE.
– THERE YOU GO. – THERE YOU HAVE IT. WE’VE GOT A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT, AND QUICKLY, I WANNA ASK YOU
– OH, YEAH. – SOMEONE WROTE IN AND ASKED
WHAT YOUR FAVORITE SEED COMPANIES
WERE. – OKAY, THERE ARE SO MANY
SEED COMPANIES OUT THERE, AND I BROUGHT IN SOME OF THE
CATALOGS THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE. – [TINISHA] JUST A COUPLE.
(LAUGHS) – OR, YOU CAN REQUEST
ONLINE, BUT IF YOU WANT ONE THAT SELLS A NICE VARIETY,
SMALL AMOUNT OF SEED, ‘CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU DON’T
NEED THOUSANDS OF TOMATO SEEDS, YOU JUST NEED A DOZEN, PINETREE. I THOUGHT THAT ONE WAS
INTERESTING. IF YOU WANT A COFFEE TABLE BOOK, YOU WANT BAKER CREEK HEIRLOOM
SEEDS, BECAUSE THE PICTURES ARE
JUST FABULOUS IN HERE, AND THEY DO SELL A LOT OF
THE DIFFERENT HEIRLOOMS. THERE ARE A LOT OF SEED
EXCHANGE GROUPS OUT THERE. SEED SAVERS, IF YOU’RE LOOKING
FOR SAVING HEIRLOOM-TYPE SEEDS. AND ONE THAT I THINK IS VERY
INTERESTING, THIS IS FROM CALIFORNIA, IS
HUDSON’S. IT’S AN ETHNOBOTANICAL, AND THIS
IS WHERE THEY’RE SELLING SEEDS
OF REALLY WEIRD PLANTS. (TINISHA LAUGHING) OR ALL KINDS OF PLANTS, IF
YOU WANNA BUY TREE SEEDS, THIS IS MORE THAN JUST
VEGETABLES. – SO THOSE ARE SOME OF
YOUR UNIQUE OPTIONS. – YEAH, TOTALLY TOMATOES, THERE
YOU GO. (TINISHA LAUGHING) AND THEN, OF COURSE, BURPEE, BUT YOU’RE GONNA FIND THOSE IN
THE STORE. – YES, OKAY. – BUT NOT EVERYTHING. – WELL, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR BRINGING ALL OF YOUR SHOW
AND TELLS, AND FOR ANSWERING ALL OF THE
QUESTIONS, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR
WATCHING, AND WE’LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME,
GOOD NIGHT. (PEACEFUL MUSIC)

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