Mini Multiple Interview (MMI) guide for medicine entry



well welcome everyone to this overview of the multiple mini interview style commonly used by medical schools both in Australia and overseas just before we get started if you have any questions about medicine you met or interviews or if you'd like some free resources or not so free but still very affordable private tutoring or mock interviews as you can see there then please get in touch via the email address at the top of the page and I think that's more information on all that in the description box under the video so I thought I'd begin just by giving you a bit of background into the nature this sort of interviewing so I'll tell you about how the day normally runs which universities use this sort of interviewing method and then talk about my experiences and give some general tips for the day in general and after that we'll go into the different types of stations they can use and we'll do a few example questions from each around here with the questions about you and your relation to medicine we'll do a pretty comprehensive look at all the questions that I thought I could ask you and then for the ones such as moral dilemmas and simplification we'll just do one or two examples which should be enough for you to get an idea for it yeah and then we'll finish up after that so if you want to go ahead and skip to different parts of the video then check out the description box but otherwise we'll just go through one by one so I thought I'd just begin by showing you all the different medical schools in Australia and I've sort of broken them into different categories based on the style of their interview in the admissions process so you may know that the broadly speaking there are two different types of interview styles one is the nmi which is the topic of this video and all of these universities in Australia use that style of interview in their admissions process but many still use the traditional panel style interview which all these ones on the right so I just thought I put it in for reference in case you were wondering whether medical school or schools you're interviewing at use this style or that one there so yeah if if you haven't interviewed one of these universities but hopefully this video will be particularly useful for you if you don't if you're at one of these ones then it's still may be of some use given there's a lot of overlap between the two different styles so either way I just let up a bit in for reference for you if you're watching this from overseas if your interviews are in another country then hopefully you'll know whether it's whether your interview is in this style or that style because the anime is now becoming quite extensive overseas too so this is just a depiction of the way the day normally runs so we're good here is our 8 to 10 different rooms which are called stations which is sort of in a row often just a long corridor and within each room of station we've got a single interviewer normally behind a desk and then obviously the candidates interviewees which is you guys outside so what tends to happen is you begin by reading a bit of paper which is either on the door or on a chair next to the door which sort of gives you a bit of an outline as to what the station will be so I won't give you the specifics of the question but it will give you an idea of what sort of tasks will be behind the door which is gives you a chance to sort of get in the zone so you wanted two minutes to do that and in the bell ring and that means go inside so you knock on the door usually and then shake the hand sit down to them and then answer a few questions and this is the basis of this video is the different questions I can ask you usually each station lasts only about 6 to 10 minutes and the interview is pretty pretty friendly normally they don't meet just a faculty member or a doctor so that they're pretty friendly they don't don't there to trip you up and in fact if you're if you're waffling on a bit too much they'll touch you off in a friendly way so that you can get your ball your answers in likewise if you're if you're out so much the whole current even and ask additional questions so they're pretty kind but after your six to ten minutes is up another bell ring you'll say thank you leave the room and then never on shoppers across one room you read the card on the door next year will you know in front of you at this point and then the process repeats itself again and of course the other nice thing about this system is that because you move rooms every few minutes you end up being seen by you know 9 or 10 different interviewers which means you get 9 or 10 different opinions of yourself so if you say something particularly stupid in one of the rooms or if you don't like one of the interviewers or if they don't like you it doesn't really matter because there are you know eight or nine different rooms and therefore wait a lot of different chances to impress and each time it's a clean slate there's no you don't come with any baggage it's it's a fresh start every room and the other nice thing is that some university is also will kind of eliminate your to low scoring rooms and just take the top six or seven which means that even if you sort of break down inside crime in one of the rooms I'll just get nothing right and that's okay because don't just be cut out of your school so in that sense this style does give you a lot of room to move and sort of takes the pressure off quite a bit so I I went through this style of interview two years in a row the first year was when I just finished up school and I had a good eight are I really going to you Matt I kind of felt like if I if I knew why I wanted to be a doctor if I knew what it took if I had a few life stories behind me and if I know about the Uni and the course but that would to be enough to get me through the interviews and as it turned out I was dead wrong and I sort of came up short and I sort of knew it at the time to the interviews didn't go great I did say some pretty stupid things and a little bit time I had no idea what to say so in the end even though I had a few different yuning's I'd had interviews that I didn't get any offers at all so the following year I sort of looked back and looked at all the different stations they've been and the different questions that asked me from across all the universities and I sort of tried to piece them together and work out all the different sort of questions they could ask and the different angles they could come out in asking them and I still do write this down and compiled this and then jot it down a few notes for each question so I didn't have a word for word answer is any began to sound like a robot but I just thought if I could have something to say for each different question something quite intelligent that would be a much better approach and so I sort of treated like an exam and then went into it I only had one interview the second year but it went really well and in the end I ended up getting a place with the scholarship having the highest entrance score so I found like what amazes the difference between not getting in you know ie being ranked below 200 and being round number one the difference between that is sort of a bit more preparation so just finally before we get into the specific stations just a few tips about the day in general so the top one the top point there is dress I really don't think it matters what you were to be honest certainly the instructions the University will give you probably say dress whatever you feel most comfortable in we won't judge you on your appearance and for the most part I think that's true certainly in the first year I went to do my interviews when it went pretty badly I was wearing a suit and in the second year when I went really well I was wearing something much less formal there's like jeans and my vans and the sort of bogan patterns short sleeve top so I don't think it matters at all to be honest whatever you feel most comfortable in I think if you dress down then it shows that for one thing you can follow their instructions any of the instructions the unique idea about wearing something comfortable and second the second thing is that it means that you will be comfortable and also it sort of lends itself quite nicely to the you know the picture of the modern doctor being at the same level as a patient and you know treating the moszer as a human being rather than just a patient instead of having all that patient-centered care sort of it makes you sort of appear more human I think but it shouldn't really matter either way the second point there is about timing so like I mentioned before the interviewers will sort of guide you in the sense that if you're rambling on they'll cut you off and if you're not saying much they'll encourage you to seem more but there's still the possibility that you might run out of time so again just keep in mind and maybe even practice the art of sort of giving nice detailed answers but still being concise they're not rambling on getting superfluous answers and statements the third point don't think so I don't feel obliged to answer straightaway often when you do if you don't really think about it you'll say something which is a bit stupid or just poorly phrased so just take a deep breath the inside sentence is like well that depends or that's a good one something just to fill in a bit of time and get a bit of time to think fourth point it's about not only about what you say how you say it so really you're being judged mercy on what you say but the interviewers are only human and if you come across as a really nice warm person and that can only help your cause yeah and the final point is just a ticket showing that these attributes maturity empathy there was a good thing to have so now on to the different types of questions you can be given and I'm going to begin with moral or ethical dilemmas so the idea with these questions is that you'll be given a scenario which is quite ethically difficult and this may be in the medical context so you might be a doctor or a medical student or they could be just general so you could just be a member of society and so you you read the situation and then serious questions about how you deal with it so in a minute I'll show you an example of this so for now just try and understand these tips but they'll become clear in a minute when you see an example so first point is broadly speaking when you're given a scenario like this there's usually only two options you can take broadly speaking so it isn't that I usually which one you take but the important thing is that you do take one over the other and then you make that pretty clear so the only way you can really really mess this up as if you sit on the fence so either doesn't matter which side you take as long as you can justify it there's one exception to that which is when the dilemmas between independence and Authority so what I mean by that is for example if there's a dilemma where you're not sure whether to turn something to the police or not after they've committed a crime you would you should do so because you want to side with the police rather than the individual even if they're your friend I've done good because you don't be seeing someone who evades the law and so that's sort of an overview of it while you meant to pick a side your approach in general should be that you should sort of make the case for both sides and then eventually pick one so you want to sort of in your respond to and begin by saying well on the one hand I can see why option one is valid because of these points and I can see why option two is valid because of these points but at the end I'll slide with option one option two because of this reason so give both give both arguments and then just pick one at the end and in doing so try not to let your personal or religious views influence your answer so I'm going to be saying it's quite impartial in the last three points are just about the specifics of how you can deal with visa to questions so the third last point here all that saying is that if you're stuck for good points if you if you can't think of very many points to support your argument a great point to make is that you would need to look into all the details of the problem at giving to you in more detail and furthermore you probably want to make sure that all the details they've given to you are accurate so when they ask you what would you do in a situation a great thing to say first up is well I need to make sure that all the facts are correct that's a good one to buy some time the penultimate point emphasize your empathy towards all involved so in this brief example here about whether or not to turn something into the police so you would you would side with Authority as I mentioned before but you would still emphasize how you would deal with the person who you were turning into the police in a very kind and sensitive manner so instead of just saying I turned them in you would say well you know I take them to I take them away from a crowd of thought people there I said it explained to them why I was doing what I was doing I would suggest that if that the police would take the right course of action so on someone you would go to detail about how you would deal with individuals and the final point is just that if well occasionally the interviewer will is trying to play devil's advocate and say well what about the other case what about the other option isn't that better because of these reasons and the important things that you just keep you cool and stick to the side you've taken so don't be seem to be kind of someone who can be influenced easily just hold your point hold your case and then reiterate your points and just hold your ground so here's a typical model limit question on the day the interview you walked into the room where this is the station the interviewer would give you a bit of paper which would give you sort of something like these top five lines here which would give you the scenario and you'd be given as much time as he needed to read that after which they'd ask you a few questions such as these ones here so if you want to go out that question and I think about your response in terms of the advice I gave on the slide before then I give you a few seconds now just to pause the video okay so these are the points I had for this question so the top the top top point there is that you should mention the bits of the question that ideally you'd like clarification on so what the stop point is saying is that usually the question or the scenario that they give you will be very general there won't be much in the way of detail so in this question you can see there's lots of very general statements here it's a friend but you don't know if it's a long-term friend or or a sort of a friend you don't know – well it says they're anxious but it didn't say why if it's just their general personality or if it's because they know how important it is not to miss lectures or if it's because of financial problems or other problems it says just mentions part-time work doesn't say what it is it's important they do have to go if I have any people who can fill in for them that sort of thing I mean the final sentence they're told they're missing compulsory lectures would result in a fail so again it doesn't say if it's just one lecture if they miss one metric that's about or if it's three or four or all of them so these are all the bits of the question which ideally you'd want to have clarification on you'd want to know the details so the interviewer won't give them to you because I haven't written the question that way this is all there is but you'll just say that if you had to respond to this that's what your first action would be would be to find out the details of this get more information so the second point there is that you should discuss the pros and cons of either option so this is what we mentioned on the page before about making the argument for both possible options so in answering this question you would you would make the argument for signing off your friend and then you make it up make the argument for not signing them off just to show that you understand why this is the dilemma in the first place so you can see where the conflict is but ultimately when you pick a site I think in this particular example you should cite all authority again like you mention on the on the slide before so in this case the Authority is the University and the independent figure is your friend and the reason why you want a side of Authority is because keep in mind this is I mean this this interview is at a university you don't want to be seen as someone who's trying you know in a scenario someone who is trying to you know sneak past the University and there you know lectures you'll be seeing someone who does right by the university in other words so the correct side to take in this particular question and there isn't always a slide to take sometimes it doesn't matter but in this question you should probably sign off as like don't sign off your friend so don't sign off so even though you wouldn't sign him off you would mention how you would use empathy when dealing with them so instead of just saying I wouldn't sign them off full stop so I would find them make sure they were alone fun meant a good time and then instead of just saying I'm not signing you off give them other options so maybe you could go to the faculty with them to discuss other options or help them explore different options financially if that's the reason why they need to work just you know show show you can go into detail and think of different options as a solution to them to the problem and the last point is just saying that if you're asked a follow-up question like number two here then again you should hold your ground and say it doesn't matter whether it's one lecture or all of them which is missing even though the implications all of them would be works doesn't matter which way or which one it is it was just one all of them either way that will be my response to to not sign them off so leading on from the moral dilemma questions are those questions which ask you to prioritize a series of patients based on the information about them so typically you'll be asked to imagine you're the doctor and then the interviewer will present you with a few profiles of patients so just you know before say you know usually four bits of paper with four different people on it with their pictures and then sort of a few dot points about you know their age occupation you know smoking status so on underneath and usually you either prioritize them in terms of like the same treatment so if it's a transplant for example and if that's the case and you can't distinguish between them based on the nature of the treatment because the treatment is the same for all so then you have to differentiate between them based on their sort of demographic information or that personal information so if you just look down here this is sort of what you to look at for questions where you're asked to prioritize for a transplant so factors to use in prioritizing them include how severe their condition is servicing more severe you drove them higher their age lower age would rank them higher smoking status non-smokers right higher comorbidities which is sort of conditions which they have in addition to the main condition which might be the the failing organ in this case so you know better overall health and less comorbidities would bring them higher a strong mental status would rank them higher and then a lot of responsibilities in terms of their family the role would rate them higher so those are the ones you should draw on in making your decision the ones you should stick away or stay away from are these ones here so don't know their social status influence it if you have a politician or a doctor or lawyer or someone that doesn't make them any better than anyone else in so don't reference them hi because of that if they're family if in the scenario they're family sort of you know a raining year about the importance of their family member and the you know this happened before and this happened and you know they give you an anecdote that doesn't matter it shouldn't affect your decision and you shouldn't obviously bring in any personal favoritism so don't use these ones just drawn you know the basic profile information that they give you it's you know pretty basic I think of stuff if the question gives you sort of four different profiles so I've another ways for different patients who are waiting for four different treatment options then mostly it's the nature of the treatment option which determines their rank so someone has a cut finger they rank lower than someone who needs oxygen urgently you know it's it's fairly basic stuff you want to be drawn any medical knowledge in determining this it's pre pretty much common sense yep so these are the points for those those questions but really it's basically with basic ethics and kind of knowledge about medicine and you know just justify your decisions okay it's know move on to questions about you for the next three sections of this video so which I think which are questions about you questions that you in relation to medicine and a discussion on equalities I've tried to list all the possible questions I think they could for argue rate list so in preparing for your own interview I recommends that jotting down a few notes for each of these that would set job pretty well let's begin to the first one which is tell us about yourself and it sounds pretty easy but it can be difficult because it's so broad that you sort of think well we know what do i what do i do on in answering this I think the important thing to remember is that because you're at the interview stage at that point they know you're pretty bright so you don't need to keep you know bang on about our ducks and I was in this immediate and so on it's more about you as a person and you were you know other sports and hobbies in interest so I would sort of mention maybe any interesting background to you so if you weren't born in the country or if you moved here that's a good story to pull up and instead of deep life moments any hobbies any sports any languages just you know give a brief overview and if you can make them laugh at this point that would be a good a good move because I can only guess the Hmong side so that's sort of all you can do that question give a few hobbies sports languages activities and try to make them laugh and you should be you should be right for that one so the next two points sort of work off that they so what are your hobbies and do you play any sports or any other extracurricular activities so obviously ideally you'll have a few and it's fairly straightforward just explain what obvious of sports they are sort of how often you are taking those and then often a follow-up question will be what have you learned from these which is a good thing to cooperate in to the answer even if they don't mention that so even if you skip what is that question you can sort of begin to mention what you've learned from it and what shows about you and if they if they cut you off then obviously there we need that but if they if they're after that they'll keep you keep you going for a while so just mention what you do have a think about before the interview have a think about what your hobbies and sports say about you so things like whether you're a team player or not whether you support others what's your what's your particular role in the team are you a captain or you know in terms in your playing style what does that show about you all those sort of things just have something ready just think about what you do and what that shows about you in relation to medicine I'm third point or fourth actually is what achievement you're most proud of or might be a slight variation or not just you know well some of your proudest achievements so give a few again like I mentioned before I think they know that you're pretty bright so you don't aside you know I top the subject and that subject and so on they want you to kind of you know have a few other areas which I quitter so proudest achievement could be again a hobby or a sport something related to that particular moment or it could be sort of a charity thing that would be a very good option if you sort of you know did a charity run for something where you fundraise that would be very good option for this question so then we get to this one here about a key event in your life so this one can be a bit tricky if you're a school leaver and you have not much in the way of life experiences but the interviewers didn't know that but I'm expecting a massive key event in your life so long as you can kind of explain or sometimes even sort of justified and then explain what effect it had on you and hopefully what effect would have I don't even a positive way that should be fine so key events could include moving countries moving states moving in schools if you have a hobby you're particularly passionate about maybe at the moment you're introduced to that just some sort of big formative event which changed the course of your life hopefully for the better that's that's fine for that one then you get to these two about your influences in your family so parents probably the biggest influence but also school teachers coaches family friends just anyone even I guess celebrities or sort of you know hopefully in a good way just anyone again as anyone really as long as you can justify it and then hopefully for this one you have a good relationship with both parents this is another good opportunity to kind of crack a joke and make them smile and get the long side in you know describing your grandparents or parents at they're quite a character but just you know if it's as long as it's true make it seem as though you have a very good relationship with both of them and yeah if you considered going to details about that I chose to feel quite good with people and you understand different personalities they're nice too bad you're squeezed hopefully you can give the impression that they were reasonably happy and that you were sort of you had a group which you were you know quite happily bullying to and thatis acquire a sensible group and a good grounding for you you might need to lie about this but if you discuss some things which you probably shouldn't discuss or that they want to hear about but again just make this try and try and make this seem quite you know happy and positive and constructive tasty and in this one well I mean that's that's just whatever it is Ben hopefully it's quite it's a proper book rather than you know magazine or something and try to think what that taught you what you got from that and if you can make it into medicine somehow even matter but you don't need to so on to the second page of questions about you so the top two points there are just what are your strengths and what are your weaknesses which is pretty self-explanatory but they may come at you from two different angles for these questions so they may simply ask you to respond normally or they may ask you to respond to a few single words so if they ask you in a few words what are your strengths would have to say okay you know kindness empathy intelligence is something well I could ask you from the perspective of someone else such as a friend or family member so that requires you to sort of well in theory it requires you to think outside the box and think from someone else's perspective so they're different ways they can phrase that and message of require slightly different responses each time so just how to think about that and really any strengths will do because to be a good doctor sort of requires quite a lot of different attributes so most can link into to being a doctor in some way weaknesses are harder because again because so many attributes link into being or are important in being a good doctor it's hard to find one which doesn't or isn't too incriminating so I mean things like being shy or not be good at public speaking can be quite good because they're not you know absolutely vital in being a doctor but they are a genuine weakness not to and pass off as strengths a weakness which is you know not a good thing to do so again there's different ways they can frame that question and your response could be different hopefully based on that so then often after you found you fans the question about the weaknesses they'll follow up with a few questions about your weaknesses in general because they know it's quite difficult answer and catches people out so our typical one is described a time someone's been critical of your nature and what did you do to improve on this so again I mean particularly if you're young this might be difficult to answer and it's the sort of point where if you don't prepare and they ask about you'll just probably sit there a bit dumbfounded so do try and think of a time when someone's been a bit critical of you and hopefully I mean bigger the fault the better in a way obviously you don't have to be too incriminated but you know you don't want to you don't to mention all this one time a teacher in school you know shadowing me because I've been naughty you want it to be something which is quite integral to your character so it's a fine line which is try and think of something and more importantly is what you did to improve that and then similar question below what is an aspect of your own character which you can prove recently it's like the same question but instead of someone else been critical it's showing that you have the ability to pick up on your own weakness and improve upon it so yeah similar similar advice for that one but have a different one for both of these questions just in case they pull out both and then sort of based on that again what would you most like to improve in future and that's sort of a bit easy to answer because you know it's not saying what are you bad at and saying you know you can take this questions being you know even if you're good at something what would you still like to become better at so you could say well I'm okay at this but I would want to be better in the future so you know you're not you know being forced to admit it's a weakness so take that approach to that so now we get on to questions about you in relation to your dislike study medicine and again I'll try to give you all the different questions I feel they could realistically throw to you on the day so we begin with the top one which is the classic question of why do one is like a medicine and given it is such a common question I would recommend having a few different reasons in your in your response so just work out what it is that is driving your desire studying medicine whether it may be interesting the sciences the desire to help people like to work in a team the desire to being in a field which is changing so rapidly the ability to have a career where every day is different most of things just work out which one's apply to you which ones are driving your desire to be a doctor and just have those ready on a day the second point here is kind of following on from that but it's sort of framed and slightly loaded fashion in that it's asking you what you want to get out of medicine rather than what you want to give to the field of medicine so just be careful that and you know sort of you should mention the same things helping people working in a team being intellectually stimulated maybe also just mentioned that it's more about what you want to put back then which one I take out of it now the third point there is just to make sure that you understand the length and the nature of medical training you'll undergo if you get into the course so obviously the course itself would be four to six years which is the University course after which you'll do one-year internship which is when you work at a hospital as a doctor you are a doctor and you get paid but you are right taking water of doctors and you know you're not specialized you just go around the different specialties in teams working in a fairly low capacity after that you become a resident which lasts one to three years the residency and it's pretty similar to internship but you're a bit more senior and after that you begin to specialize so specialist training will be three to six years even general practice is a special to go so that requires training so regardless of what you go into it will be about 12 to 15 years of training until you're fully qualified until your consultant as they call so this question is to make sure you understand that and you understand a bit about the structure of it and a good thing to mention too is that even once you're fully qualified you're still obviously have to keep up to date with new developments so it never really stops the learning the fourth point about the worst things again this is just make sure you understand the nature and the reality of medical career so some of the worst things could be the long hours the faculty compromises the the work-life balance the stress the fact that you be around sort of suffering and death unpleasant circumstances having to break bad news that sort of thing sort of think about that so this question here is just about why you choose or why chosen medicine over other similar careers so the three I think they could throw to our medical science physiotherapy at nursing so just how to think about why you've gone from medicine over those three what makes them different and what's what appeals to you about medicine in particular so I think I said something about medical science not offering the same level of you know direct exposure to patients and people in need all the same opportunities of you know teamwork and I think nursing Dena for quite the same depth in in scientific background and coursework that's the thing you just have to think about why medicine over those through for the second last one even though you may not know what you want to specialize it given that you know at this point you're not even in medical school and even if you were it would still be you know a decision which you'd have to make in ten years time so you may not know what you want to specialize in but the interviews one hears something from you about that they want to know something about you in which direction you think you might lean in so if you know what you're sort of interested in even though it may change just mention that give the reasons why and there should be fine if you don't then general practice is not a bad one sir to use because it is realistic in that most people end up in general practice and it's also sort of a bit of a worry about future shortages of GPS and to you know the specialty being seen is not very prestigious not about opportunity if you can justify why that interesting and the final question is just about what sort of a combination of the two above it so you just absolutely know roughly what point of the training will begin at different points in time you know five years ten years so instead of what specialty you might be at that point if you know what you want to go into so a few more questions now the top two they're just about the University trying to work out if you understand the nature of that course and if you've done your research into their course so it's important just to have a look at the university guides and sort of their you know any information the book looks they give you in relation to the medical course because all the courses around Australia are a bit different in their length in their structure and their focus to some might be considered more research focused others might be more focused on rural health or tropical health or you know that's a big so just have an understanding of what makes that university a bit different from the others and work out what about that particularly interest you and so I'm just look into what in a normal week might be in the early years and the later more clinical years if they ask what you've done to look into this then you know again just university guides may be talking to current students is a great thing to say you know information day is open days just as many different sorts of information as is as possible so the question of what would you do who did to get into the medical course or into any medical course so would this one be honest but the best response probably would be that you would try again in the following year because that shows that you are serious about becoming a doctor and it's not just a fleeting thought so yeah that'd be the best option probably decided we'll try going to form you as for what you'd do in the meantime in that intervening year you know again it depends on what is true for you so you may go into a different course science or nursing or physiotherapy you might go on a gap year or or spent a year working in a hospital or overseas just you know whatever it is but the best option is to try that you are still very serious about it um as for these these three they're fairly self-explanatory so I go to too much detail but I would say that you know for this one for example you'd want to have typic seven or eight different points for what makes up a good doctor because it's the sort of question where it seems simple but on the day when you're under pressure you know it's very easy dad you know a mind blank and just to not be able to come up with that many so write down seven right which you feel are particularly important for doctor to half and then again think of you know two or three aspects of your own character and it should be well suited in lots of all suited so this is kind of goes back to your your strengths and weaknesses and then the last two which about what improvements he might have to make to become a doctor and what being a doctor might improve or change in you so again this sort of harks back to the weakness thing we talked about before which is quite difficult so try and find one which is not too incriminating but isn't a cop-out so something like being shy not being good at public speaking maybe getting too caught up in the details not getting an idea of the big picture that's a good thing so just think about you know what might change in being a doctor and you being a doctor so yeah that's that's one which is very tricky violence on this part so I have a good thing about that beforehand so now move on to a discussion on qualities these are the six qualities which they could realistically ask you about so through today's we'll go through and do a slider questions for each one and if you prepare your answers for those you should be set let's begin with teamwork so as you look down a list of these questions you may think to yourself that they seem pretty easy and that you may not need to add too much preparation for this an ordinarily you might be right but the the pressure of the day itself the interview day is such that often your brain isn't quite working as efficiently or quickly as it normally would so for each of these I would recommend sort of coming up with a few different points for each so maybe for the first two you know it'd be good to have eight or nine different points for these two the third and fourth point maybe up two examples for each again for these two maybe eight or nine and then you know someone so just have a few pre-prepared sleep on the day you can't think on your feet typically and you'll have a few to fall back on so with the first question they're just reading off the notes I hadn't loaded the interview I had things like members need to be reliable clear communication active listening what else everyone threw in their roles are unified in collaborative atmosphere members drawing ideas from different sources do you have greater variety in the outcome as the point of atmosphere those sorts of things so you can have like eight or nine or even more different points like that and that'll set job well so for the bad team qualities which is the second point but try to think beyond just the opposite of the above because they could ask you both and if you're just a devastating opposite of barf then it's a bit limited so try and think of a few different ones this is where having eight or nine different points sort of helps you out because then you can sort of give a fee for one question and if they've already opposite question you can sort of drawn the others so yeah just have a have a good depth of responses ready for that as for the third fourth point that's it up to you and your life experiences but try to think of one or two for each and with a bad example try to think if if it was resolved some way or if you helped out in some way to improve it because they may ask you about the sort of follow-up question and as for these four again looking back at the notes I had qualities of a good team member and in a bad team member so you know things like as integrity and dignity trust others inspires others to inspires others to action through their own actions as a long-term vision and the ability to see how to get there through others you know those sort of things so this one about whether you're a team member or a team leader I think you want to give the impression you can do both roles sort of equally what you can least get them effectively so I think I said personally that it depends on for one thing the extent to which I understand the topic at hand and the goal and how to get there so if I understand it well might be more inclined to become a team leader and it also depends on how well I know the people I'm working with and what they could at and how to use them effectively so yeah give the impression you can do both pretty well depending on the circumstances and the same for the time the question there about whether you enjoy each one to give different examples of when you prefer being a leader or a member and that's for the final one that's another example of where if you weren't if you weren't prepared then you'd be pretty screwed probably so I think I do something like biomedical advances so things like pacemakers and Bionic gears and stuff which requires abductors and biomedical engineers and electron engineers and all these different fields working together instead of you know bringing together their different expertise so something like that would be good and so on to conflict resolution and you'll see as we go through the six different qualities of which resolution is the second that a lot of the questions are very very similar and my advice for each of them is kind of the same about you know preparing a few different responses for each so again these two the two top points here about good and bad strategies again just have said if eight or nine maybe eight or nine different ideas for each so things like you have being non confrontational bringing or speaking to both parties initially in private and then maybe bring them together see if they can work it out acting as a mediator being empathetic towards all you know those sort of things this is the fourth one here about what would you do for ten members and pulling their weight again that's the base of what I just said then about the different strategies so I have a think about that and maybe have you know seven or eight different points about what you you do aid work through the problem the fifth point there is quite a difficult and low question because you know it used to do it's been criminais ting whatever you say so I mean the trick here is not to sort of mention any particular group based on any social factors but more sort of mention a type of person based on their personality so I said that I found I found people who are unnecessarily angry dismissive non-responsive or just appear to be not trying to help the common good and a common cause difficult that's why I found difficult so something like that something based by personality and how do you deal with him it's very difficult but sort of try and see if there's an underlying reason why they're like that if there's a if they're stressed out if they're not happy if they're scared and if not then see what could be helped in the situation see what would help them act in a more constructive way and just acknowledge that you know you may not be able to help the situation ultimately as long as anything to increment you should be fine with that these two questions here down the bottom again instead of based off your own personal life so I can't so much about that but just how to think about that because they're both quite difficult I think just think of one on the spot so think about it in detail and what it said about you and what you did that sort of thing and again this question it's highly unlikely we'll get this one because it's pretty tough but maybe you could think of one example and you should be fine for that so for leadership you'll see again that most the questions are pretty much the same as before just with leadership in the question so the same advice for all of these the top two maybe eight or nine different points for those and then these two maybe two examples for each and then again sort of a few examples for each of these just you know a good solid base so for the top two you know just just a few good a few things like leaders should be aware if there are limitations but of confidence they should be or respected but not feared concerned and interested in those with whom they're working willing to take risks that's the theme and then try to think of a few in addition to the opposite of good qualities for the bad qualities of leadership maybe for these to try and think of a few life experiences from school or sport and just think through again thinking depth about what happened what they meant to you what you did about it and why you thought that was group or here again just sort of think about the different roles you've probably got quite a few if you're if you're just finished school team member or team leader we discussed this before that you know usually able to kind of do both based on the nature of the situation and how well you know the subject matter and how well you know the team around you and then again just a few stories from your own life down here good leader in medicine I think I did Francis Collins who is the UM sort of the leader in the the Human Genome Project that's quite a good example but there's quite a few yeah that's been much it it's the same advice as before just think of a few different examples fruit so now on to adversity and how to deal with adversity and criticism so these questions are a little bit different from the ones before but the same principles apply so I just have a few examples for each the first the first two is sort of again very personal and pretty similar to one another so just think about maybe two or three different times in your life where you were quiet we were faced with adversity so I could be meetinghouse moving state moving schools the death of a family member or pet doesn't have to be huge given that you're probably only quite young you know that much in the way of life experiences just think about just think of a few examples and why that affected you and how you work through it so for the criticism question the sort of points you might want to make include working out if it's just a sort of a rude and mean criticism or if it's actually constructive and if it is constructive than approaching it with a positive attitude because it is ultimately a chance to improve the part of yourself looking at it objectively and from the person's perspective being positive and smiling towards them to show that they appreciate the chance to improve and then kind of work out some points or some steps to improve from there the future whereas this point here about adversity I think that's more about sort of putting everything in perspective and saying even if a few things got it wrong we're still very lucky to be in this country and you know to have the opportunity to study medicine so you know putting putting things in the big picture getting positive and not chasing those people around your way to you know actually keep your support networks and just to accept that what's happening in the past happened and you can't change that and then learn from that and make steps again towards a better future to improve the future so most of the things again have maybe seven or eight different points to these two and these two here the second and third last points just think about time in your life when you've helped others with adversity and what you did to do in that situation so I mean techniques may include encouraging them to open up without pushing them letting them tell you what's troubling them in their own time attempting to put yourself in their shoes but appreciating that you may not be able to completely sympathize and understand you know offer possible solutions or things that could improve the situation give them new options and opportunities to go out and be constructive and busy maybe offer other stories that people who are in similar situations and manage to to improve and find a happier place those sort of things and that's for the last one that should be pretty easy because and then you know you're so to get adversity in every step with the medical pathway so even the prices are getting into medicine getting into a specialty and then practicing medicine ultimately with you know outcomes not always being as good as you'd like with patients you know developing a rapport with patients and then having them you know die or experience suffering you know it's fairly ubiquitous adversity in medicine just how to think about a few different examples so decision making and this should all be fairly self-explanatory based off the last four slides so my advice would be the same maybe have a few different points maybe you know seven right for these two questions at the top and then just one example for each of these should be should be sufficient so four methods of coming to a decision good methods I had include writing down the pros and cons of each option and then weighing them up obviously taking as much time as you possibly can to make a decision trying to be in a positive but grounded in mindset when you make the decision trying to be objective trying to get hold of those had been in a similar position before and severe advices and maybe even think of what the best possible outcome could be by taking one option and what the worst is and then doing the same for the other and what the most likely is to you know some different techniques there so just find a method that you think works for you and then stick to that and then answer the examples there's a few variations they can throw at you one is an important decision you've made in your life one is a quick decision and one is one based off incomplete information so have a different example for each of these if you can and most importantly work out or know how you came to that decision so ideally you use the point email in this question in those who sort of apply them to your example and the final on there that should be pretty easy because much like looks like before difficult decisions are also pretty pretty common in medicine so just think it might be four or five different examples and the final quality they might ask you about is your management of stress so it's much the same as the previous slides maybe eight or nine different good and bad coping strategies so I mean good things could be that you know good sure it has to be that you might take time away from the source of the stress if it's feasible you might have other activities which offset that stress which help you release it you may put these in the bigger picture again to kind of show that it's not ultimately that big a deal most of the things as to the person examples maybe one or two examples for each of these and how you go to them which is the important kind of second part of the question I'm so you just finished all that might be pretty easy P for the how can you tell when your stress question yeah I mean you might just sort of think that you just know when you're stressed which is probably true I think it's getting this question so just drawn a few different factors so draw out some physical factors like you know feeling of being tense and then emotional and mental factors such as maybe like not as much sense of humor is no more or disinterest in other people and maybe if instead of other cues around you it's maybe you know that because you've got a good support network and people kind of ask you if you're stressed it's like you appear stressed that's a thing so I have a few different it's a few different methods by which you can tell that you're stressed and use the same things for other people to kind of work out when they're stressed so you know things like if they appear easily aggravated or short of temper or conversely a therapy to flatten tire you know that cross psi Walston sort of fidgety and nervous or having difficulty focusing and then sort of again just to op them out just show them to be a picture ask someone you can do to help kind of sympathizer them if you can just gonna post up the things yep and then that's sort of again pretty pretty easy from there because again there's lots of stress involved on medicines which is four or five different points again I want to be fine for that and you should be set for other qualities so it's a good idea to to have an idea of all the different issues that are currently facing myths in your country so here in Australia these are the ones which really we should be or you should be having a look at prior to your interviews no I won't go through all of them in detail because this video is low enough already but just in your own time now you put together a paragraph or two for each of these dark points giving an overview of the the nature of these problems at the moment so obviously rural health is problems with getting doctors into the into the country getting you know medical schools out there having resources and keeping results up to date all the city problems problems of the funding and interest levels interest is in human interest not financial so all those are the problems indigenous health is fairly closely tied to real health – obviously they've got lower life expectancies and a greater risk of many many diseases which is supposed to do down to genetics and the environment often so I haven't got understanding of the nature of that third point insurance that's because society is becoming more litigious which means that you know greater levels of being sue pushes the premiums up for insurance for doctors so that's coming well that's having a big factor or playing a big role in the cost of working as a doctor so waiting lists there they're probably pretty obvious for you guys that's just you know the wait and telling people are people are enduring at the moment for or before they get treatment or surgery which is the results of resources and doctors being stretched the aging population is the fact that our population is getting older due to a greater life expectancy decreased fertility rates and immigration and that's going to obviously create burden on the workforce in a few years time and the federal budget obviously pretty recent at the time of posting this video and very controversial so just look back to the most recent federal budget whatever you watch this video and work out the main redistribution of money and resources any new initiatives in the case of this budget the co-payment scheme just some understanding of all the different new initiatives and redistributions and under that point there so the first six teachers have a good general feel for those and then from here down abortion down these are all sort of moral dilemmas much like what we did at the start of the video so for each of these it'd be good to have points both for and against both and then to have an opinion on that seemed approaching anti-abortion or even Asia and even Asia so on so just you know it was pretty pretty common arguments so you should be able to find quite a lot of points both for and against just make sure you've got them for the day I won't go into it because it's all very personal in detail and this video has been going for a long time but just have a point for each of these I have a few points and you should be fine so onto the simplification stations now these stations involve the interviewer giving you a sheet of paper on which a medical concept is explained in quite some detail and from there your your your job is to read the information absorb it and then relay it back to the interviewer in simplified language the idea of the station is that as a doctor you'll have obviously a lot of medical knowledge and technical information and jargon but when you're talking to patients you have to put all this aside and explain quite difficult concepts of them in language they can understand so in approaching these questions when you relay the information back to the interviewer small mistakes don't really matter too much ideally you wouldn't have them but if you you know given it such a large amount of information that you're absorbing in a few minutes it's fine to make a few mistakes just keep going even if you think you've got a few things wrong because it's not the main point of the station it's more about how you simplify things rather than getting every little bit right so keep going in working out how much to simplify your explanation I would serve aim at it like a 12 or 13 year old child and so really mean any technical word you should replace with another another phrase so use of analogies is also a good thing to have so in explaining a medical concept if you can think of an analogy or metaphor that most people were to be able to understand that's a great thing to throw in there even if you can't think of a perfect example it's still be if it'll be worth it to use it in your explanation just to show that you know how to simplify things in theory even if you know the execution isn't great just to try that you know how to use analogies to simplify things that's great so so try and always ears one of those continually ask if they're following your explanation is a good idea so actually kind of stop at different points throughout your explanation and ask the interviewer is everything I've said so far understandable or dvd clarification above what I've explained so do that you know two or three times thereafter explanation to make sure that they are up to speed and to practice you can just look at you know like a textbook or even Wikipedia and just look at medical concepts and phenomena and then practice simplifying them down and you can also do that with words such as DNA cells nerves in a basic medical and biological terms that's pretty much all you can do for these questions so here's an example question simplification so this is what well this is the sort of thing that the interviewer would give you on a piece of paper but you have to simplify in the space of a few minutes so I don't have a bit of practice then pause the video now and give yourself maybe three or four minutes maybe even five given this is pretty long just to get your head around it and then practice rolling it back in simplified terms and a few points up to that okay so the first thing is that you want to eliminate any technical terms and jargon so obviously you keep the title of what you're talking about you've mentioned that term which would be the autonomic nervous system in this case but other technical terms like hypothalamus pons and medulla you probably want to kind of summarize that is sort of a control center at the base of your brain that would be a good sort of simplified explanation of that and again you wouldn't use the word somatic nervous system you just kind of explain to them but it's the nervous system the bare familiar with that results in you know sensations and movement you tempted by these terms like respiration rate and perspiration so you know rate of breathing and sweating just even simple stuff like that using an analogy something like a thermostat is the classic example for internal regulation in the body so maybe you could use that example or something which kind of has the feedback mechanism and is easy daleks understand again you asked them two or three times throughout this if they're following and just sort of keep everything simple and condensed and aim it towards sort of a younger person it's fairly simple from there but this is the type of thing you might get this sort of like the sort of complexity so just keep practicing that method of simplification now into a role play and this can be amongst the most daunting probably the most daunting station because they've got all the weight set up is that you've got the interviewer we barely talk to and then an actor which is you who you sort of talk to the majority of the station the idea usually is that you're playing the role of the doctor and the patient is or the actor is playing the role of the patient and there's some and then you've given an instruction as to what the nature of the interaction is about so usually it's either explaining to the actor you know or patient in this case the nature of a new treatment plan or something more difficult so an example there is trying to dissuade them from you know alcohol abuse or smoking or self-harm so if we give them this sort of outline of what you have to do and it'll tend to be slightly awkward or difficult as you can imagine given those examples so just a few points about this obviously you can't you know recreate it here but just a few points for the day the actors will be very professional and that you know very realistic so I mean they may start crying or raise their voice or get angry at you that's all fine obviously doesn't mean have done anything wrong it's just a realistic depiction of what might happen in real life so just keep in mind that it is all acting and it's all over pretty soon just keep you cool and hold your ground and do your best so to begin in session it's often good to just use a few sentences like have you been recently or happy beats and tell us consultation or just you know what's been happening it's much better to start that work just to ease yourself into it to show that you're quite apathetic and so you don't have to dive straight into the you know at hand so start with that stiff that sort of approach when you get into the meat of the problem you know the actor may start crying or being a bit upset the important thing is that you in the in that stupid moment you don't say things like I know how you feel because you don't have a feel at all and it's bit patronizing so much better statement to make in that situation is I can only imagine what this must be like or how do people this must be so yeah don't be patronizing or dismissive I also don't try to say that everything is fine but don't try to sue two-minute eyes the problem because it is probably a very real problem so you don't be seen this is just missing it so also in dealing with this situation it's good to be a figure of authority and control so even though again they may be in not the best state and may be quite angry with you you shouldn't be submissive you should hold your ground and save well instead of saying what do you owe me to do about it give them options so be the active one in the consultation and say well here are some options to how I can deal with this that doesn't mean that you don't listen to them at all obviously it's very important to listen and to be apathetic and kind but just be the one who takes the initiative and so overall does speed slowly show empathy listen to them keep your cool hold your ground and should be fine and the final station is just puzzles which are fairly rare but something is used isn't in two or three other stations so I thought I put it in so stations may be a physical puzzle by which I mean like a jigsaw puzzle but often love to do the picture but rather you know the different jigsaw pieces may have different numbers or or colours on or it could be a theoretical puzzle which tends to be like a a map section one question but much easier so if you're given a physical puzzle like it to a puzzle probably make it very complicated and you won't be able to solve it or expect to solve it and your performance in that station isn't marked by how far you but with the puzzle it's not about you know how much of it you've got correct is about the process is involved in getting to that point and so the way they evaluate those processes are by listening to your explanation as you're going through it so the best method is just to talk out loud as you're doing it just give us a sort of stream of consciousness commentary as you're working things out doesn't matter if you start off doing the wrong thing as long as you explain the logic behind what you're doing and keep your cool and laugh it off at the end when you when you can't do it and show that you anybody good good sense of humor about it that's what you can really do just keep talking keep talking throughout laugh it off and you should be fine with the theoretical puzzles it's not only concept like exchange rates of probability or other sort of basic maths so you might have to do it if you know pure maths but instead of a concept based off that often and again there's not much you can do about it just sort of take your time think through it if you're at the interview stage then you've probably done pretty well in Section one of you mats I just do you pass to that and that's all there really is to it so again if you need any notes resources tutoring mock interviews then get in touch otherwise I wish you well

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  1. This is a very helpful video. Do you have the file to your presentation that you used in the video? If yes can I have it please, it is very helpful to me. You can email it directly to me at [email protected] .MMI is starting to get popular in Thailand also.

  2. This was enormously helpful! Just one thing I wasn't too clear about was when they ask about the strengths/weaknesses you mentioned they might ask you to speak 'normally'. What exactly did you mean by that?

  3. Thank you so soo much. You taking out your time to make this just, thanks so much mate. Really great stuff.

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