Nursing students should you get your LPN first?



what's up everyone welcome back to the daily show on for those of you haven't been here before my name is Sean I do a daily video on something away at a nursing no robbery reason probably not going to change fan question interested in the journey to become an RN is it worth to be is it worth the time effort money to become an LPN practice as an LPN before you become an RN hmm this is a very good question because my answer seems to have changed over the years when I first started nursing I would have reflexively said absolutely positively it would be a great decision to make back then LPNs were utilized very differently than they are now so I would say yes become an LPN take your boards work as an LPN and work towards becoming an RN you can use that experience to help you in becoming an RN now my ideas have changed a bit only because the utilization of LPNs seems to be in flux and it seems to be changing I'm not really sure why a few guess is out there but quite honestly I think it has to do with the market has to do with the utilization of the RN there are certain things LPNs are not allowed to do within their scope of practice that an RN can something like and off the top of my head have to do with IV medications IV pushes and quite honestly I think an LPN has to be specifically trained in order to cannulate veins and start IVs but I could be wrong on that one the scope of practice is very different from an LPN to an RN so when a facility needs a nurse they need nursing services if they can save money in the long run sure they may utilize an LPN but the game seems to be changing a bit most facilities are unfortunately phasing out the LPN most LPNs are working in long term facilities LPNs are utilized in in other unique areas but in the hospital system at least in my experience recently in over the past several years LPNs are not utilized the way they used to be in the hospital system the answer to my question now is it may not be worth your time effort and and most importantly your money to pursue becoming an LPN before becoming an RN if being an RN is your ultimate goal that is not a a knock and i'm not trying to offend current LPN students it just is the way of the world these days if you're going to spend the money you're going to spend the time that i think you could you could invest your time wisely and just go straight for the RN if your life dictates something different and you don't have the time money or the ability then sure by all means get out there get your experience get into LPN school so it really has to do with your situation but if you have the opportunity i would definitely just go straight towards working towards becoming an RN hope this answers your question i can't wait to hear what the tribe has to say about this one raise your head out there if you're an LPN want to hear what you have to say about this one leave me a comment down below you know your comments on my caffeine share this with somebody and as always check your own pulse first

49 comments

  1. I chose to do the LPN first to get the basics down and start working, learning and getting "my feet wet". I don't think there's anything wrong with working your way up. Even if you start out in long term, that will help your bedside manner so much, and really makes you tough. Especially when it comes to loss. Some of us don't have the life circumstances to go straight for RN. That would always be ideal, but now they offer bridge programs that license you in half the time and don't cost as much. So, it could still be a win, win.

  2. I start LPN school im 2 weeks and im so ecxited!!! I think its well worth it considering my situation. I'll bridge over and be done by the end of 2020

  3. I would become an LPN first as long as there is an available LPN to RN program in your areas. I am currently an LPN going back to RN school. I was lucky enough to be able to work on the med surg floor to get experience. I also work prn at a nursing home and make 24$ an hour and without having my lpn, RN school would be a lot harder to afford.

  4. Ever since the first day I went into classes as an LPN I have heard that LPNs are being phased out I have heard this every year, 22 years later LPNs are still working strong and are the backbone of some hospitals.

  5. Here in Canada LPNs are taking over and the scope of practice is increasing so much hard to keep up with how much its changing.. lpns work in hospitals and across all fields and RNs are being fazed out. Maybe 1 RN for every 8LPNs in the hospital and many other places within canada. I am a student taking my PN to become an LPN 🙂 choose it because i want to do everyday patient care .

  6. Everyone saying you can just bridge over after LVN/LPN IT'S NOT THAT EASY! Nursing programs are impacted as is and MANY LVN/LPNs are competing to get into bridge programs and even generic programs just to get into a program. It's not easy once you're working full time and trying to finish pre reqs not to mention the ever changing pre reqs. You would think it would be easier for a LVN but I think it's easier to just go straight into an RN program. I've been an LPN/LVN for 6 years and off and on going to school to finish pre reqs only to get discouraged by all the jumping through hoops and impacted programs Feels like I'm stuck as LVN and even considering going into another medical field like PT or OT.

  7. LPN run LTAC and Step downs. The money is better in LTC ( Missouri average is 26.00/hr) LPN do need to be certified, the only thing we can’t do is hang packed red blood cell and IV push Med, everything else we can do…. BUT you will most likely only get work in long term care or home health and if your really lucky a few hospitals ( but you won’t make squat in the hospital because you are utilized as a sec/tech in the hospital) get your RN

  8. I am about to start my 3rd semester of LPN school in Canada and I must say that here in Canada LPN's are utilized more in all areas of nursing. Yes, there is a high emphasis on LPN's in LTC but I have seen quite a few LPN's in the hospital as well. We have a scope of practice that is expanding all the time. My nursing school is one of the most popular and has very high enrolment in western Canada. The competition is high to get into my program. I have 1 year left in my program and I can't wait to be a LPN.

  9. Wish i had the time to pursue my RN first. Going to make the best of my LVN and work however slowly toward RN. Maybe BSN by 51 yrs old. Currently 44 and still need all prerequisites for RN. Got my LVN may 30, 2018

  10. I just finished the ADN and about to start BSN. I'm an LPN but I would tell anyone to skip the PN if time and resources aren't a factor. I would never tell a young person to be an LPN.

  11. Well over here where I live (NY), it takes 2 years just to take prerequisites and then you have to take the TEAS and pass and then whoever has a better score on the TEAS has first priority into getting seated in the program before you so it's a waiting game…then when you're in the actually RN program it takes another 2 years to complete full time…all for an associates in nursing? I don't have 4 years to waste. I rather become an LPN first and then bridge over to RN. All within 2 years. Then go for my BSN. I have a young child who goes to school and I work. I can't just jump right into BSN when I have other priorities. I rather take it one step at a time. Whatever route anybody chooses, they choose the one that's best for their life. At the end of the day we will all reach our personal destination one way or another no matter how long it takes! It's not a rat race!

  12. I was an LVN for 2 yrs at an LTAC and just got my RN. I‘be been on top of my game as a new grad RN THANKS to my experience. In TX, LVNs can do IV Meds(w/ cert), IV pushes, help give blood, etc. There’s not a lot of limitations to our practice like in other states.

    1. Consider your state’s scope of practice
    2. Consider WHERE you’ll be working
    3. Is this a better decision for your family situation? If so, GO FOR IT! May find it well worth it.

  13. They tried this back in the early eighties . All RN floors All RN hospitals . Money….Stopped it. it didn't work then it won't work now

  14. Im an LPN. I just started working in LTC. it has been very unpleasant. Im starting the process for RN immediately.

  15. I can agree with what your saying, the college that I'm at now. I was attending the LPN program, because I wanted something fast quick and easy although I've been a CNA for almost 7 years. I felt that I wanted to move up in my career as a nurse so I eventually dropped out of the LPN program and enroll into the RN program because that's what I really wanted to do was the RN. I had that opportunity to sacrifice the 2 years and go straight for the RN, plus what I wanna do later in the future will Benefit me as RN then on to my BSN and than my MSN, NP. I must say it was the best decision I made. I only did this because i was given the opportunity, but I had to make alot of life sacrifices, I had give up my apartment to move back In with my mom and dropped down part time with my current job. But I know towards the end it's all gonna be worth it. So everybody has their life situation. But if u want something fast and quick and still make good money go for the L.P.N first. To each is own… and btw,, I'm from Florida and LPNs are in high demand. The hospital where I work at hires them for medical and Pysch. So idk why ppl keep saying LPNs are getting phased out!! At my college the LPN program has more students then RNs…

  16. In my area LPN's work at a few of the hospital's.Yet are mainly employed at long term care facilities. The wages are far more competitive there.WHENI attended LPN school it was fairly cheap and hard to get in.Know there are so many for profit schools that are really expensive. The Universities have waiting lists.I think people get tired of being wait listed and choose LPN route

  17. I appreciate the experience along the way. I worked as an LNA for a couple years. Graduated with my LPN and worked in LTC, also worked in an office setting for many years. Paid off loans and I want to continue to RN school. Nursing school doesn't teach experience, and I fear BSN's won't have a clue about the foundation of the nursing hierarchy.

  18. I think it really depends on your state because here in Ohio LPNs are making excellent money in hospitals and long term care. I like the LPN route give you experience before you are an RN

  19. I agree with his comment. Problem with LPN BON is that are scope varies from state to state. We can do IVP and meds if trained and if hospital or facility has it in their SOPs. See link for LPNs scope – http://nursing.advanceweb.com/lpns-and-iv-administration/, https://www.americannursetoday.com/remedying-role-confusion-differentiating-rn-and-lpn-roles/.

  20. I don't think it matters either way. I would say the plus about going the LPN route is you just bridge right on over to an RN program. I've seen accredited schools that have a 16 month bridge program for your BSN. LPN is essentially your first year of an RN program, the great thing about that is once you're licensed you can start a great career making some good money while going to school. That's the PLUS, most people either put school on hold or take awhile to complete due to finances.

  21. How much it costs for International students? And how to apply for this program?
    May I know what I asked? What evidence I have to prove? I mean My TOEFL and high school certificate. Thank you.

  22. I’m doing LPN will be finished in May and taking a semester off to work then I’ll be going for my RN…it’s worth it if you want to work as a nurse now making real money while working on your RN. I used to think I didn’t want to be a LpN first but I have a different view now that I’m actually doing it.

  23. I know this thread isnt new but as a guy 53 starting LVN studies I found this informative as I research all I can.
    https://stats.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/mobile/home.htm

  24. Not sure why a few of these commenters seem offended but what was stated; it was unbiased and honest. In doing research I saw a lot of states are phasing LPN's out so I think it just depends on what you want to do. If you want to work LTC or, if it works better for your specific situation then LPN is great. I know some AMAZING LPN's, but I also know a few of them have a really hard time finding work outside of long term care.

    My program requires a CNA training so I did do that and sit for the state exam to work as an aide during school and I've heard some two year nursing programs do an LPN for first year of an RN program in which you could sit for NCLEX-PN halfway through so your not left with nothing of you decide RN isn't for you.

    Like I said I know some amazing LPNs but the market is higher and broader for RNs currently.

  25. This guy…smhThere's no down side of becoming an LPN first as you can be on track for your RN in the same time frame by bridging your education. Only great experiences

  26. Potential nursing students should note the LPN scope of practice varies widely throughout North America.

    For example, I am in Alberta.

    In Alberta LPN scope of practice is very wide and there are not many differences between the LPN scope of practice and that of RNs. Also, some Alberta PN nursing schools are first qualified first to get a seat in the program. RN programs are SUPER competitive admission in Alberta.

    So… a few LPN first Pros for ALBERTA. Faster admission to the program. Faster graduation (LPN is two years) and getting into the nursing field. Athabasca University is headquartered in Alberta and offers a PN to BSN via mainly online program.

    Pros of the straight to RN (BSN) for ALBERTA. Shorter path to a BSN if that is the goal (BSN only path to RN now in Alberta is four years. LPNs are given a max credit of 15 units for their schooling and experience). Higher starting wage for new graduates (~35/hr vs. ~26). Wider scope of practice (but the difference is shrinking fast).

    LPNs in Alberta seem to be in greater demand than RNs. LPNs are very commonly employed on most units in the local hospitals.

    As an LPN I start, manage and remove IV lines (NO Central lines)

  27. Hello, I am not an LPN yet, but I am working towards on getting my LPN,  but I"am a Certified Medical Assistance for over 15 years. And are working towards becoming an LPN, I guest the pay is good? and I really don't care about the pay, but I love to take care of the elderly,  I also have experience in working with Hospice patients as well,  I'm not sure but I'm not sure if I would like to work as a RN? so I would have to agree with Nunya Bizness… I'm going the LPN, so there its official

  28. I am a proud LPN. I have been fortunate enough to gain experience without being limited to a nursing home. I've worked in Urgent care for 6 years and correctional nursing (prison and county jail) for a year. Currently I work in an ER. I have learned to do everything an RN does but of course stay within my scope of practice. I started as a medical assistant (which can do a lot under a doctor's licence) and wouldn't trade my career path for anything. I agree it is getting harder for LPNs which is why I encourage people to go straight for their RN. I am working on continuing as well. Sometimes, however, some can't afford to go through all of the schooling initially, in which case you should take your time. Just understand that your job choices may become limited.

  29. What if have zero experience? You think i should go LVN to BSN. Is it impossible to get into RN school without experience.

  30. In Canada, LPN and RN scope is very close. Lots of LPN's are working in hospital, however the RN scope is the one expanding, such as titration of INR dosing, and actual prescribing medications (Yep RN's will be able to prescribe!)
    I work in a hospital, but I can see that with my licence my areas of work offered are more limited. To get into more mental health, or critical care areas, I need to move into the RN role

  31. Hey Sean, I have to agree with you, I went through the same dilemma 2 years ago and after doing my research and talking to a few RNs and LPNs. I decided to take the Straight RN route. Around my area it is very difficult for LPNs to get the job of their preference in the hospital setting. Most jobs for lpn are prn. LPNs are usually hired in long term care facilities and doctors offices and honestly I am not a big fan of long term care (no offense to anyone). As a new RN grad I was able to get a full time job in a hospital around my area in critical care (exactly where i wanted) with an ADN. I feel that the time that it takes to become an RN is worth way more than going through lpn school and then doing the transition to RN because of how limited the lpn scope of practice is. Not to mention…. having to take the NCLEX twice!!!! (That must suck ) I am so glad that I went with the RN route and thanks for your videos and advice, it truly helps us new grads!!

  32. I was a LPN for 2 years before I became a RN. I worked in the hospital and was trained on IVs, IV pushes and EKGs. My LPN program was only $3k because I went to a votech. LPNs receive more clinical hours and focuses more on clinical skills. I don't regret it at all, LPN actually made me a stronger RN

  33. disagree. i feel you get more hands on doing lpn then rn. also you can do a bridge to rn and save money. or use your lpn to work to pay for rn. ive been a lpn since 2004. ive had to train rn to mixed tpn start iv mix injectable medications.not complaining just saying. we do a lot of the same task.

  34. I think it depends on where you want to work. LVN' s may be "phasing" out in hospitals but there are always plenty of jobs in doctor offices and Nursing Homes and Assisted living facilities and home health care that need LVN's and CNA's. They don't want RN' s working in these areas because it's more expensive and those places just don't need RN skills, they need practical care hence Licnesed Practical Nurse. So, saying there will be no more LVN' s in the future is just ridiculous and not factual.

  35. I graduated as an LPN, DEC 2015 and passed the NCLEX on the first try Aug '16. I got a job as a clinic LPN in Mar 2017 and quit 9 weeks later. I feel like I made a mistake going the LPN route instead of doing the RN program. I was doing the exact same job duties as the RN's (except triage, LPN's in my state don't triage) for a lot less money and of course I felt inferior to the RN's due to them delegating tasks. If I had it to do over again, I would forego the LPN and go straight to RN!

  36. It wasn't for me! It actually help me breeze through my RN program. I only had to take a bridge course and 1 year later I was a RN. I worked for 4 years as a LVN and it benefitted me immensely. Any education you pursue is never a waste. You are correct to some extent, but I know it is a trend that was going on when I was a LVN. LVN/LPN has always been utilized more in LTCs this is nothing new. The advantage of being a LVN first is that you will be able to master procedures such as placing NG tubes, dressing changes, and Foley catheters. Being a charge nurse in a LTC will give you insight of leadership as well. I was a LVN in the Mid 90s I became a licensed RN in 2000. I have my LVN to thank because it was the foundation of being a LVN that catapulted my career as an advanced nurse today.

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