Osteopathic medicine (DO)

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  1. This is BS! The ideas promoted in this video could not be more inaccurate! None of what is being described is Osteopathic Medicine. To the Author, read a book! Preferably one that was written by Dr. Still.
    This is the sort of propaganda which has led to the demise of Osteopathy!

  2. This is the kind of medicine im passionate about unlike practicing allopathy (western medicine).
    I value nutrition,health and wellness inside and out. I strongly believe that what we put inside our bodies impacts our physical and mental health.

  3. Hi , I'm italian and study osteopath in a private collage school . When i finish the scool can I go in usa for working holiday with italian d.o. ( formed in 5 years full time ) ? Reply my quest please ! Thanks 🙂

  4. Can't conceive why the US has D.O. programmes and M.D. All doctors should be practising  medicine  in a compassionate manner that takes a biopsychosocial approach and the fact that Americans need to go to a special type of med school with added woo for this is ridiculous. In the UK, our programmes emphasise this properly and we also learn how to take a through history from the patient instead of needlessly relying on endless bloods and other investigations.

  5. Anyone bashing in the comments section simply has this confused with Osteopathy, Naturopathic Medicine and / or some other form of Alternative Medicine.

    Osteopathic Medicine IS Western Medicine. It IS Allopathic (+OMT). It IS surgery. It IS medication. They ARE physicians. I knew A DO who was Chief of Surgery at a prestigious hospital and another who was Chief Attending in the ER. Not to mention all the other DOs I've seen in EVERY specialty across the spectrum from Family Medicine to Cardiothoracic Surgery.

    Do you really think they are going to let someone who spent 4 years learning to rub herbs over your chest to stop a heart attack into the OR to perform a CABG?

    Do some research people, you've probably been seen by a DO in your life and never even knew it…

    DO=MD

  6. I'm a DO student. Some OMT I feel could be beneficial as a complement to traditional medicine for patients with musculoskeletal pains (barring contraindications) but the primary benefit for me as a student is reinforcing anatomy knowledge which is nice since I want to specialize in surgery. Depending on the practice setting, many DOs will probably never even use OMT.

    The only real negative to being a DO is having to take both the COMLEX and USMLE in order to be competitive. Research funding is also lacking at many schools but that doesn't really seem to affect anyone's chances of getting competitive residencies because my school matches many students in plastics, neurosurg, derm, etc. every year.

  7. Osmosis you let me down… You can't understand properly the biology of our body, the complex pathophysiology of dozens of diseases and at the same time speak about spirits and talismans, you simply can't…. Of course I agree that a physician should be concerned about the other problems of his patient, besides his speciality, this doesn't mean that every M.D. is a blind machine that fixes only the organ of his interest!!!

  8. Cranial Osteopathy? Muscle energy? I'm a medical student at a traditional medical school (M.D.) in the U.S. We don't consider these as evidence-based medicine. Sure, some aspects of OMT maybe effective but there are definitely parts of OMT that are complete bogus and go against current understanding of physiology. Despite the overwhelming research and evidences to show that some aspects are no better than placebo, AOA (American Osteopathic Association) pushes DO medical schools to teach these. I have multiple friends who go to DO schools and they are all taught the same way. They are told, "You have to BELIEVE it to SEE it" Can you feel the muscle energy running beneath those fibers? can you feel the shift in the cranial bones AFTER that they have FUSED????

    I've seen great DO doctors. I've shadowed DO doctors and I don't mind working with them. What I mind is that AOA and some DO's are overly protective of OMT to a point that they treat OMT as their 'Holy Cow.' They won't accept evidence-based medicine and science to improve/reform their osteopathic education. Seeing AOA and DO schools forcing students to learn techniques that are proven to be bogus is plain and simple – institutional negligence.

    My personal feeling is that if you are willing to subscribe to a method of therapy that systematically ignores the scientific method (instead substituting case reports/folk lore/stories), then anything good that may come out of that is essentially fruit of the poisonous tree. I'd rather just stay away entirely.

  9. Osmosis …. make video like a snake bite and management, treatment of high altitude sickness……..

  10. It's sad how many people are unwilling to accept the benefits of osteopathy. Just look at all those dislikes.

  11. DO students go to four years of medical school, do a 3-5 year residency depending on specialty, and have to pass their medical boards. There is nothing "pseudo" about it. Fully licensed physicians with a little extra training in osteopathic manipulation is how I see them. I have worked with excellent DO doctors (and they are doctors) in the emergency department, family practice and in surgery. I find it interesting how the internet has given people the ability to speak so loudly and hateful about things they simply don't understand. This video is an attempt to educate. If you don't like the idea of being cared for by such highly trained professionals then it is your right to seek out whatever professional you feel comfortable with. To suggest that DO doctors are somehow less-than is unfair and incorrect.

  12. "They hate us 'cause they ain't us" – AT Stills in 1962 as he resisted MD efforts to displace DO schools, upholding osteopathic tenets of compassionate whole-person healthcare and community service to meet healthcare needs and positively impact the delivery of healthcare locally and globally

  13. Terrible that this group can call themselves physicians, is this just a cash-grab for Universities/Hospitals? – the most evidence OMT has is that it can provide short term MSK assistance with lower back pain, which also has its own risks associated. 'In some cases Hands-On Techniques can be used to replace medications or surgery', right rolls eyes*, 'moving muscles and joints can help with asthma', right *rolls eyes – pseudoscience? I cannot see how the medical field would take this seriously?

  14. Hi there! Actual medical student here who is currently attending an osteopathic medical school in the United States. I felt like Osmosis did a good job of describing what a DO is. Many people are commenting on this video without having even watched the video, which is sad and unfortunate. To expand upon what they already said, students in osteopathic medical schools receive the exact same medical training as those in non-osteopathic medical schools in the United States. We participate in research, do rotations at hospitals and clinics, take medical board exams (I took both the DO exam "COMLEX" and the MD exam "USMLE" and performed well on both due to study and hard work, like any medical student, whether MD or DO.) Yes, we do have the opportunity to learn osteopathic manipulative treatment (OMT) which, as the video states is a hands-on way of treating a patient and frankly it does help people. OMT is a tool on a physician's toolbelt of techniques that they can use to help a patient. DO's do not only use OMT, but it is one of the things we learn. Another criticism from the video is that many of you are mad about the line that "OMT can replace medications and surgeries." This is not to say that OMT replaces all medications and surgeries, but that the techniques we learn can relieve pain, improve a patient's breathing, help break down scar tissue, etc. Often times OMT is used in conjuction with medications or surgeries, as another way to treat patients simultaneously and help them to feel better. In addition, DO's learn to perform complex surgeries, do endo/colon/cystoscopies, prescribe medications, refer to physical therapy, etc, really all the techniques, skills and practices that they'll need according to their specific medical specialty. Once completing the 4 years of medical school, I will apply to medical residencies, like thousands of osteopathic students before me, the same residencies in fact that my friends who attend allopathic (MD) schools will apply to. These residencies, like the video explains, can be in any specialty and really any program as well. For those of you who think DO's are fraudulent physicians, I don't think that where my classmates who matched in PM&R at Harvard/University of Washington/UC Davis/UPMC/UT Southwestern, Neurosurgery at the Mayo Clinic and Internal Medicine at Yale (to name a few notable places) would say that these physicians are fraudulent doctors. Without knowing it, I'd say that many of you criticizing this profession have probably been treated by a DO or had a family member treated by a DO, and not realized it, whether it was in the hospital, the emergency room, urgent care, in a private practice clinic and maybe they were even your anesthesiologist during surgery. Please don't trash a profession that puts in years of their lives to help you stay healthy, well and alive. Do your research into the profession. See what the school's teach. Ask your local DO.

  15. 2:50 I'd love to see high quality evidence from well designed randomized clinical trials on this, with blinding, allocation concealment and other strategies to minimize biases…

  16. Osmosis, I liked every video of yours till date expect this one. Got to disagree. Doesn't sounds scientific really. Hope others would agree too. I'm sorry for the dislike, I'm honest.

  17. I hate to comment negatively on Osmosis which has otherwise been an exceptional resource for medical learning, but this whole video comes off more as paid-for advertisement than your usual well-researched and edited videos. Given the overwhelming positive spin, I'm assuming that the topic of DO is controversial and usually the opposite views are held? The whole "mind, body, _spirit_" thing makes it seem like it's not all scientific, to me…?

  18. can you please do a video on turner syndrome! I have it and I know alot about it but your videos are so detailed I would love to see a turner syndrome video on your channel!

  19. 1) The fact I've never seen this outside the United States makes me skeptical of it.

    2) The way this video sells them as wonder doctors who can do everything, fix you up with massages and are all about the patient (unlike the regular doctors?) is questionable.

    3) Incorporating a concept as ambiguous as "spirit" as an aspect of treatment is also weird, and this is coming from a Catholic.

    4) Isn't a "hollistic" approach what internists do?

    5) Can't an orthopedian learn to do the hand massage thing?

    Of course, zero disrespect meant for the DOs, I'm sure they are quite capable in their areas, but maybe this videos sells a slightly idealistic idea of their profession, at least to someone who practices in a country where there are none of them.

  20. As a D.O. myself, I appreciate you bringing attention to the field. I feel like your video could have been broader though.

    Yes, D.O. Physicians have OMT. But most use our OMT as a adjunct to western medicine. For me, it is not a replacement for medications, but an alternative and adjunct. Most often I find chronic pain patients to benefit from omt. This does not mean I will not write for some other medication if they need it.

    A little background on osteopathic schools. DO schools are four years, like MD schools. Over these years we have to pass the boards just as MDs. COMLEX is the osteopathic test, but we may also take the USMLE. Both tests are recognized by osteopathic (DO) and allopathic (MD) residencies.

    In fact, in 2020, there will be no differentiation between osteopathic and allopathic residencies. They will all be ACGME certified and recognized as the same.

  21. Out of curiosity (I'm from Quebec, Canada and here there are Osteopathy schools but they aren't really recognized as doctors), does that mean that after 4 years of DO school, they can apply to a surgical residency or say, radiology? (or would they not as they don't "believe" in surgery as a cure?" and can they prescribe medications at the end of their 4 year training?

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